MagusShannon
Sep 30 2006, 05:47 AM
I have a chance to do what I have wanted to do for some time, in May of 2007...Namely go to Mexico and do some work helping people, maybe do some healing work while I am down there. I know, you guys scowl at healing work, but that's your openion and you are welcomed to it. I feel that I am fulfillling an obligation to the ancient Egyptian priesthoods who were great healers...And considering that all of my main Deities active powers is healing. Besides, in the past priests and ministers served as the healers in all religions. So basically I don't wish to hear any arguements. Unless it's to argue credentials, which I agree with making sure that they are ligit and have certification in their areas. I am ligit in my state, with or without the ULC's credentials behind me. Besides, in Mexico there are no regulations and you do not have to be a minister nor a massage therapist to do Reiki or the like.
I digress...I shall not be preaching, nor spreading the teachings of my Gods; but doing things for people. Things that might not seam like a big deal to us, but for them to see me doing these things, it shall mean a lot to a lot of people there.
It is now 1:46 AM here, I need to get some sleep...I feel like a bit of a zombie. Just wanted to touch base with you all some this weekend.
TTYL,
Shannon.
RevRazz
Oct 12 2006, 02:37 PM
The ULC Monastery as a corporate entity does not charge ministers to go out and do healing work, but practically all of its employees believe in the healing power of God. It's a legal liability issue that needs to be formally cleared up in the future, and talking about it here now on the forum might be one place to bring up the issues.
I have known people who went to Mexico wanting to do what you do. Most of these were in a young crowd, and most of them came back saying that they came back having spent more time learning than they spent healing!
However, you sound like you might already have a lot of experience. What is it exactly that you plan to do? How do you plan to do it? Will this be strictly a working trip, or do you plan to study under a native healer as well? How did you learn what you already know?
drcorey
Oct 18 2006, 09:23 PM
("MagusShannon":d1eca)
I have a chance to do what I have wanted to do for some time, in May of 2007...Namely go to Mexico and do some work helping people, maybe do some healing work while I am down there. I know, you guys scowl at healing work, but that's your openion and you are welcomed to it. I feel that I am fulfillling an obligation to the ancient Egyptian priesthoods who were great healers...And considering that all of my main Deities active powers is healing. Besides, in the past priests and ministers served as the healers in all religions. So basically I don't wish to hear any arguements. Unless it's to argue credentials, which I agree with making sure that they are ligit and have certification in their areas. I am ligit in my state, with or without the ULC's credentials behind me. Besides, in Mexico there are no regulations and you do not have to be a minister nor a massage therapist to do Reiki or the like.
I digress...I shall not be preaching, nor spreading the teachings of my Gods; but doing things for people. Things that might not seam like a big deal to us, but for them to see me doing these things, it shall mean a lot to a lot of people there.
It is now 1:46 AM here, I need to get some sleep...I feel like a bit of a zombie. Just wanted to touch base with you all some this weekend.
TTYL,
Shannon.
Jesus is a great healer too, read a bible.
and learn Reiki, people think this was the energy jesus gave for us to use on each other.
Alaska_Minister
Oct 19 2006, 03:07 AM
I would just like say thank you Magnus- the healing work you do is commendable. I belive it is an inherant duty for us as ministers to do healing work as Jesus, his deciples and other prophets have done. I also believe that Reiki is the birthright of every human being and one of the greatest works one can do in this lifetime in this age. I wish this was not such a controversal topic. Every culture on earth has some sort of "Natural" healing modality, did not Jesus say that we would do greater "works" than he?
I know there is a sermon regarding the practice of Reiki and whether we are granted any "protection". I believe that if we do any kind of healing in the name of our religion/beliefs it will be protected under the constitution, but the moment one begins to "charge" for it as a service, it becomes a secular legal issue regulated by the state. Just my thoughts.
Many Blessings to All, Peace to All Beings
MagusShannon
Oct 23 2006, 04:56 PM
No, actually, it's not that way. Ministers are on the list of the people who can charge for healing services just like massage therapiests, RN's, and others who can leagally charge for it; but the prices for the ministers services must be listed as a suggested donation of $__. It is no more outragious than charging to do a wedding. And that's become a stable income for those who are in Los Vagus.
And I do charge. I have to make a living. But I shall never send people away who can't pay and ask me to work on them!
Alaska_Minister
Oct 23 2006, 11:25 PM
I am not sure which "list" you are speaking of? In Alaska there are no regulations regarding Reiki. However, in order to do any "…application of techniques intended to affect the energetic system of the body" you must be licensed in massage. However I totally agree with you that it is just another service that minister can do. Last night I dug out my old ULC Textbook copyright 1992 (revised 2000) here is what is says about the "Laying on of hands":
"The Universal Church has many ministers who believe in the healing by laying on of hands. Some also believe in praying while performing the laying on of hands. We think the greatest factors in healing the body is a good positive atmosphere, activity, exercise, good eating and keeping your mind as clean and as clear as you possibly can. All those factors will help the body stay in pretty good shape. What kind of healing doses the Universal Life Church teach? All of it and more!"
It also goes on in a later chapter, Q & A about the ministry:
Q: What authority do we have for the "Laying-on-of-Hands?"
A: The "Laying-on-of-Hands" has been an integral part of the church from the beginning. Read Hebrew 6:2 and Acts 8:17 & 18. "Then they laid on their hands them, and they received the Holy Ghost."
I haven't looked at this textbook in about four years. It also talks about malpractice insurance which is an issue that has been brought up in the past. Here’s what our textbook has to say about it (this comes right after the chapter on Counseling)
Malpractice
“Malpractice insurance for the clergy is gaining in popularity mainly because society has generally become more litigation conscious. Fifteen or twenty years ago ministers were primarily concerned with spiritual matters, but, today more are into the holistic approach, counseling in the spiritual as well as physiological aspects and are subject to suits. The United Methodist Church once announced that 6,000 of its churches now carry malpractice insurance. The United Presbyterian Church recently offered malpractice protection to its clergy through Preferred Risk Mutual Insurance Company of Des Moines, Iowa. The Church Mutual Insurance Company is also offering this special coverage. If you do feel the need to carry malpractice insurance, contact your insurance agent to find out what is available for you.”
Being ordained does not give any protection, and to do so would be deceiving your clients (not you Magnus, I mean that generally). For those that are already well trained and licensed as healers this has not been an issue. Currently, when I do healing, which I have been trained in, I do it for free as a spiritual service, and consider it a part of my religion/beliefs. It would be great if everyone did some form of healing even if just prayer!
MagusShannon
Oct 26 2006, 01:07 AM
Truly, prayer is the oldest form of both magic and healing.
I have insurance with IARP. 3 million dollar policy which I truly hope to the High Gods that I shall never need.
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