FACTS ALL CHRISTIANS SHOULD KNOW NOW THAT THEY HAVE BECOME CHRISTIAN:

　

1. It means we now have a human sacrifice for our sins?

Revelations 1:5 states, "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood." Also see Romans 5:6-11.

But YAH said that no man can die for our sins. For Ezekiel 18: 20-22 states, "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 21) But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statues, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 22) All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. Also see Deut. 24:16 and Gen 18:23-33.

2. It means we have another savior other than YAH.

John 4:42 reads, "And said unto the woman, now we believe not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world."

But YAH said that He is Our Only Saviour. Isa. 43:10-11 says, " Ye are my witnesses, saith YAH, and my Servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am He: before me there was no Elohim formed, neither shall there be after me. 1) I, even I, am YAH; and beside me there is no saviour. See Isa 47:4, Isa 49:26 and Hosea 14:4.

3. It means that we must accept Jesus Christ as our King and Messiah who will come back in the last days to rule with YAH.

I Timothy 6:14-15 says, "That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our L-o-r-d Jesus Christ: 15) Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and L-o-r-d of lords." Also see Revelations 17: 14, and Revelations 19:16.

But YAH said that David is the only King or Messiah that will stand and rule with Him in the last days. Hosea 3:4-5 reads, "For the children of YisraEL shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without terphim. 5) Afterward shall the children of YisraEL return, and seek YAH their Elohim, and David their king; and shall fear YAH and His 7-goodness in the latter days. Isa 9:6-7, Isa 55:3-4, Jer 30:7-9, and Ezekiel 37:21-26.

4. It means that Jesus Christ has now made himself equal to YAH.

As stated in Philippians 2:5-6, "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6) Who, being in the form of Elohim, thought it not robbery to be equal with Elohim."

But YAH said that there is no one equal to Him, and that He will not give His glory to any other. Isa. 46:3-5, "Hearken unto me, O house of Yacob, and all the remnant of the house of YisraEL, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb: 4) And even to your old age I am he; and even to hoar hairs will I carry you: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry, and will deliver you. 5) To whom will you liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like?" Also read Isa. 40:21-25, Isa. 42:8, Isa 45:21-23, and Isa. 46:9.

　

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5. It means that if we keep YAHWEH'S laws, we cannot be saved.

Galatians 3:24-25, "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [tutor] to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25) But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster [tutor]." Galatians2:21, "I do not frustrate the grace of Elohim: for if righteousness come by the law, Chris is dead in vain."

But YAH said that the only way we can be saved is by keeping His commandments. Deut. 30:15-20 states, "See, I have set before these this day life and good, and death and evil; 16) In that I command thee this day to love YAH thy Elohim, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments and His statues and His judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and YAH they Elohim shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to posses it. 17) But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away and worship other deities, and serve them; 18) I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passes over Jordan to go to posses it. 19) I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: 20) That thou mayest love YAH thy Elohim, and that thou mayest obey His voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto Him: for He is thy life and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which YAH sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Yacob, to give them." See Deut. 10:12-13, Deut. 11:26-28, Deut 28:15-16 and Eccles 12:12-13.


6. It means that we must hate our parents and our children if we want to be followers of Jesus Christ.

Luke 14:25-26 states, "And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them, 26) If any man comes to me, and hate not his father, and his mother, and his wife, and his children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." Also see Matt 10:34.

But YAH said that we must hone our father and our mother. Exodus 20:12 says, "Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy thee." Also read Lev. 19:3. And further YAH said that whosoever does not confirm all of the words of His Law to do them shall be cursed. Deut. 27:26, "Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this Law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen."

7. It means the earth is doomed because Jesus said the Elijah (Elias) has already came back 2,000 years ago in the person of John theBaptist.

Matt 17:9-13 reads, "And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. 10) And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias (Elijah) must first come? 11) And Jesus answered and said unto say unto you, Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but the Son of man suffer of them. 13) Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist."

But YAH said that Elijah the prophet would only come back in the last days to turn the heart of the fathers back to the children, and the heart of the children to the fathers lest he smite the earth with a curse. Malachi 4:5-6 reads, "Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of YAH. 6) And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse."

8. It means that our slave masters are to be treated like they are Christ and that it is the will of YAH that we obey them.

Ephesians 6:5-7, "Servant, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as unto Christ: 6) Not with eye-service, as men-pleaser; but as the servants of Christ doing the will of Elohim from the heart. 7) With food will doing service as to YAH, and not to men:" Also read 1 Peter 2:18, Colossians 3:22-23 and Romans 13:1-5.

But YAH said we are to fear Him only and keep His commandments. Isa. 41:10-14, "Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy Elohim: I will strengthen thee: yea, I will help thee: yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness; 11) Behold, all they that were incensed against thee shall be ashamed and confounded: they shall be as nothing; and they that strive with thee shall perish. 12) Thou shalt seek them, and shalt not find them, even them that contended with thee: they that war against thee shall be as nothing, and as a thing of naught. 13) For I YAH thy Elohim will hold thy right hand saying unto thee, Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of YisraEL; I will help thee saith YAH, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of YisraEL." Also see Prov. 29:25, Psalms 111:10, and Psalms 115:11.

　

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9. It means that we must turn our cheek to our enemies and not resist evil anymore.

Matt. 5:38-41 states, "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth; 39) But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40) And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.41) And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain."

But YAH said ' and eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. Leviticus 24:19-20 says, " And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbour; as he hath done, so shall it be done to him; 20) Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again."

Also YAH told us always to resist evil. Proverbs 8:13 states, " The fear of YAH is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the forward mouth, do I hate. " Also see Psalms 97:10.

10. It means that we can now eat food such as rats, dogs, bats, roaches, gorillas, and hogs (swine).

I Timothy 4:4-5, "For every creature of ELOHIM is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5) For it is sanctified by the word of ELOHIM and prayer." Also read I Corinthians 14:33-38 and Acts 19:9-16.

But YAH said that these animals are an abomination and should never be eaten by any Holy people. Deuteronomy 14:2-3 states, " For thou art an Holy people unto YAH Thy ELOHIM, and YAH hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth. 3) Thou shalt not eat any abominable thing." Also read Deut 14:2-29 and Leviticus 11:1-47

Furthermore, YAH said that when he returns to the earth he will destroy all people that are eating pigs, rats and other abominations.

Isaiah 66:15-17 reads, "For, behold, YAH will come with fire, and with His chariots like a whirlwind, to render His anger with fury, and His rebuke with flames of fire. 16) For by fire and by His word will YAH plead with all flesh: and the slain of YAH shall be many. 17) That they sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith YAH."

　

11. It means that if you are circumcised, you have fallen from Grace.

Galatians 5:2-4 reads, "Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3) For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4) Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace." Also read I Corinthians 7:18-20.

But YAH said that no man that is uncircumcised in heart or flesh should enter into His sanctuary. EzekiEL 44:7-9 says, " In that ye have brought unto my sanctuary strangers, uncircumcised in heart, and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in my sanctuary, to pollute it, even my house, when ye offer my bread, the fat and the blood. And they have broken my covenant because of all your abominations. 8) And ye have not kept the charge of mine Holy things: but ye have set keepers of my charge in my sanctuary for yourselves. 9) Thus saith YAHWEH ELOHIM; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary, of any stranger that is among the children of YisraEL"

12. It means it is good not to touch a woman.

I Corinthians 7:1 reads, "Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: it is good for a man not to touch a woman." Notice there is no question mark at the end of this sentence. Paul is making a statement and not asking a question. Paul thought the time he was on earth was the very last days; and he felt it was not necessary for women to get married and have children. Therefore, his judgment was if a man had a daughter, he should not allow his daughter to get married except when she was too old to have babies and pass the "flower of age" (pass the fruit of her life). I Corinthians 7:36-38 says, "But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry. 37) Nevertheless he that standeth steadfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart the he will keep his virgin, doeth well (Which means not letting her get married). 38) So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better.

Contrary to this sick philosophy, THE MIGHTY YAH said the he that "findeth a wife, findeth a good thing." Proverbs 18:22, "Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of YAH." Genesis 2:18 reads, "And YAH ELOHIM said, it is not good that man should be alone; I will make a help meet for him." Also see Proverbs 19:14

These scriptures prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the New Testament is a total contradiction to the words of THE ALMIGHTY YAH; and no person that fears THE ALMIGHTY should put the words of man before the words of OUR CREATOR.

Jer. 17:5-7states, "Thus saith YAH; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from YAH. 6) For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited. 7) Blessed is the man that trusteth in YAH, and whose hope YAH is."

　

　

Please be aware that the verses used above are taken out of context in a severe manner. Whether deliberately or by mistaken impression does not matter as in context one must remember that the bible is much like a person; you can twist it and manipulate it to say just about what ever you want.

If you would like to understand the bible better, like any other book I would suggest reading it book by book and understanding that like any other document if you take one line from one page and one line from another with out taking entire passages to illustrate your point you have with out regard to accuracy chosen to manipulate the words of the author such as to prove a point by deceit.

When quoting scriptural verses it is also customary to cite the translation used so that one would be more easily able to look up and verify that you properly quoted rather than improperly paraphrased the work.

Additionally "YAH" is at no time mentioned in the bible or in the Torah. If you are cutely referring to the alleged maker of all things heaven and earth by a truncation of his name you seem to be inferring that he would not be taken seriously. Are you yourself a believer in this said deity or are you attempting to show condescension to those that are?

Was your post an attempt to make a jerk of yourself or to show a lack of understanding and ask for instruction on the subject from those that have studied further into the religion than you.

MIN RAHAMEEM BEN ISRAEL DD;

It appears your sole motive in this post is to demean Christianity and Jesus of Nazareth. Like many who are carnally minded, you cannot see not understand the spirit of the word and take things literally. What you have presented, you do not understand.

You have pitted the Torah and the Old Testaments against the New Testaments. What is it you seek to achieve? Your attempts to discredit the New Teastament are childish, and are considered to be an attack on the validity of these scriptures and the veracity of the authors.

Jesus of Nazareth was accused by those he declared to be the sons of the devil as saying he was equal to God when he never said such a thing. I possess the mind and Spirit of Christ but I am not equal with God but in many matters I am one with God in those matters. My mind and the spirit in my mind, God has created as promised and declared I am the Son of God. Coming to be by His Seed. I follow the way taught by Jesus fo Nazareth as others have who also are Sons of God.

God alone is the Author of truth and it is this truth used to created the mind and spirit of Christ. God alone is the Creator of this mind and spirit in mankind. Your desire to engage in the old useless argument of "who's right and who's wrong" in inanity. It is God who declares what is right and what is wrong in and by His Word; the Word proceeding forth from Him to mankind; the Word not found in the writings of mankind.

I would suggest you enter into and follow the way taught by Jesus of Nazareth if you desire to know the truth of these matters pertaining to God, and allow; honor God; as being your teacher and creator of your mind. Then you shall know the truth.

In the love of God,

DW Suiter

And yet in his own personal signature line he says, and I quote; "But we teach the spiritual principles that He Jesus (Yashua) {sp.} operated in, and that all holy men of God have operated in throughout the ages." In addition to what brother Joseph and DW have pointed out, I might add that both the OT and NT constantly caution us to beware of "Wolves in Sheep's clothing" thereby reminding us to use our God-given powers of discernment to identify the tares from the wheat, and separate the wheat from the chaff. Those who follow the way of their father Caine, the father of lies and murder, cannot also follow after after the father of Light and Truth. Herein lies the answer to the parable of the fig tree. I will pray for this person's enlightenment and that God will somehow remove the veil of deceit from his eyes.....God's Peace....To`na Wanagi

Dear Brothers and Sister,

All those who have responded, in this thread or others, appeared to do so with either well-meaning instruction or genuine concern and a desire to understand. We have done what we can, and I believe our prayers for our brother will not be ignored.
It is a different matter when one consciously chooses to follow a path of darkness than it is to be deceived by it. I personally believe our brother has a heart that has been tainted by experiences not yet mentioned, and so has been weakened through what seems to be a strategic attack on his very essence. (His own words have testified to this observation). That said, it would be unreasonable to expect words and behaviors other that what has been demonstrated. Keeping this in mind, we must know that God our Father knows our brother very well, or what would evil benefit from the gain of him?
We cannot even estimate the numbers who were contaminated by the infection of hate he harbors within, so it is not just for his benefit we must be steadfast and diligent in our continuing prayers of love, peace and enlightenment for him.

God’s blessings,

Rev. Campbell.

Br. Joseph,

Although I have my own issues with the poster and although in the instances of scripture he used the name of G-d is not as he stated, I do have to correct you in regard to Yah not appearing in the Tanakh. For example in Exodus 15:2 we read:

עָזִּי וְזִמְרָת יָהּ

My strength and song is Yah

B'shalom,

Peter

Where it is possible that one or another translation may have used a shorter form of the name and thus I could be wrong; I have looked at about 25 translations, admittedly only in English, Greek, Latin, French, and German though not all are of Vulgate origin either (aided by having them on my pc desktop) and of those I had not found the name as solely "Yah". Which translations are you using?

Secondarily, one thing that was brought to my attention again was the reasoning that the Hebrew tradition is not to say the name of God and that even in translating some scholars have chosen to discontinue translating the name even phonetically and so avoid the accidental saying of the name when the scriptures are read allowed. Judging by the number of ways the different translations I have go about using a different version of reference to God in the verses sited, I would imagine that it is also possible that the tradition has been put to use there, even when the translation you are using uses the short form of the Lord's name. What is your thought? I do not read Hebrew but even the one Jewish translated site I found http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9876 Translates away from using the personal name of God. Shemot - Exodus - Chapter 15 --
Exodus 15:2. The Eternal's strength and His vengeance were my salvation; this is my God, and I will make Him a habitation, the God of my father, and I will ascribe to Him exaltation.

What are your thoughts, do you think this may be the reason that the majority of translations do not use the word?








After more research online, I ran into this from another post and another forum (thanks google)




I thought it would clear up the true understanding that Jesus (as currently spelled) was in fact God (Yah) Lord of all (YHWH) and his name "Savior" and "Immanuel" quite literally was an I told you so to any that would wish to understand that no human could die as a worthy sacrifice for the sins of all man. This said God incarnate would have been worthy as an unblemished sacrifice and I believe only Christianity has a belief in a deity sacrificed for human wrong doing. (please correct me if I am mistaken).

Thanks Br. Joseph, you have taught me something new this morning. Very good information.....God's Peace....To`na Wanagi

Br. Joseph,

Where do I begin? Especially as I am working through the aftermath of a heart attack which makes long responses still a chore.

First, as to G-d's name, there was a time when it was commonly used, but out of concern that the name would be taken in vain its use in common speech ceased and long before the time of Jesus it was uttered only on Yom Kippur and only by the Kohayn Gadol, the high priest, when he entered the Holy of Holies in the Temple. As a result when the Temple was destroyed in 70 CE the actual pronunciation was lost. The vowel points under the name are those for Adonai to remind readers when coming to the name to pronounce Adonai as a substitute. "Adon" means lord or master. Incorrectly applying those vowel points would lead one to read the name as Yehovah or, as Germanized, Jehovah.

The translation I provided is my own. When simply reading, or for fast reference, I use both the 1917 JPS translation and the 1985 translation. The 1917 translation closely mirrors the KJV with corrections.

I cannot say for sure why Christian Bibles, most at least, use Lord, but I suspect a couple of reasons. One is that in Christian scripture, what you refer to as the New Testament, G-d's name is never mentioned. A second is that because the actual pronunciation is unknown translators defaulted to Jewish custom which in turn became a Christian tradition.

As for the additional material provided, let me be brief.

Because I celebrate the beliefs that unite us, not those that divide us - because I find it counterproductive to engage in duelling scriptures at 20 paces - because Judaism teaches that the righteous of all nations have a share in Heaven (olam ha-bah, literally "the world to come") I generally steer away from religious debates except to correct misconceptions either about Jews or my faith.

I will, however, point out that the writer you have quoted has an agenda. Not content to simply indicate Jesus' name in Hebrew (which by the way in English is Joshua) he goes on to read into Isaiah meanings that just are not there. Given, in the first scriptural passage, that he misidentifies the word, which is not yeshua but rather yeshuahti, and misidentifies where that word appears in the sentence, perhaps it is not surprising that as he goes forward with other passages he has convoluted the sentences into something that they just are not.

B'shalom,

Peter

Thank you Rabbio, you have taught me something as well this evening. You have both corroborated 2 lifelong suspicions of mine; 1. that we will never know the true interpretations of ancient text/scripture without it being tainted by the ulterior motives of mankind. and 2. that manmade religions consist of 99% truth and 1% untruth, therein making them all a lie and thereby causing one to depend upon discernment of the spriit as given to us by our Creator...Thank you for this validation.....Yawaste' Tiblo'....(Bless you brother)...and take care of that heart....Love and Peace....To`na Wanagi

"The LORD said to my Lord........"

Words and translations can become stumbling stones for mankind. Interpretations can vary greatly. To'na is correct when declaring it is the Spirit that will reveal the truth of the matters of God to a person, regardless of the conveyance and interpretation and translation of man's word by others of mankind.

To simplify matters, there is a Creator and a creation. The creation becomes one of and with God. It is easy for mankind to continue to attempt to create his own mind by using the spirit, or word, from fellow man. Which is why mankind has so many religions and denominations of religions. The mission and message of Jesus of Nazareth was the teaching of how to know the truth of the matters concertning God and the matters of God. The way of course is to receive the Word directly from God which comes in knowledge and understanding of the Word.

When mankind ceases from his attempts to create his own mind by using the word/spirit of fellow man, and comes to God, he receives the Holy Spirit/Word directly from God. In this way he knows the truth concering the matters of God. Then God is Creator of the mind and spirit in mankind, using the Word of God which is truth; God being the Author of this truth.

Speaking for myself, I have followed this way and proved this way to be the way established by God for mankind to know the truth. In sure knowledge and in the deep understanding that is from God. "God" and the many different names given "God" have been created by mankind. Jesus of nazareth correctly used the word "Father" in regards to God, having been born of the Seed of/from God, which is the Word from God that causes a person to conceive what the Word conveys.

I profess that God is able to give supply for all of mankiknd's needs, especially the more important spiritual needs. Mankind has a need to know the truth in regards to the matters of God and God has provided for this need. In saying; "I am the way, the truth, and the life" Jesus of Nazareth presented his self as this creation and Son of God. Being the example of one of mankind who became one with God or became a family member of the family or genus of "God" or "Elohim." For by the law established by God, every seed brings forth afther its own kind, even the Seed from God which is why Jesus of Nazareth taught mankind he must be born again. In order to be born, a person must be "conceived" from "seed" in the physical and the spititual. Jesus of Nazareth spoke of being born again of the "Spirit."

It would be corrct then, if born of the Spirit or Seed of and from God, to refer to God as "Father" and as "Creator" being the creation and Son of God. God is not the author of confusion. It is by the self works of man confusion exists in regards to the matters of God. This "self works" is condemned by God. For this reason God has established a time of "rest" when mankind rests from these self works and allows God to do the works God has promised to perform.

In speaking of this, Jesus of Nazareth referred to his self often as a type and kind of person; the creation and Son of God. He spoke of mankind coming to him and he would give this rest. In this, the correct understanding is to come to be this same type and kind of person born of the Seed and Word from God, being the Son of God. Those who testified in the "New Testament" declared "Now we are the Sons of God." For they testified as having followed this way taugt by Jesus of Nazareth and of receiving the promise of God to teach them truth.

There is but one truth concerning the matters of God but with mankind, there are many different beliefs and opinions. In order to save mankind from belief in false teachings God has established a way to "know the truth" and not rely on mere belief of what another or others of mankind say and teach concerning God and the matters of God.

A key to this understaing is the word; "Prove me." and "Prove all things." Proving a matter is greatly different than simply believing what is being said. Which is why Jesus of Nazareth declared; 'If you follow my teachings, then you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." He never asked his disciples to merely believe him, but spoke of the necessity of following "the way."

Mankind chooses what he believes. Those who truly believe the teachigs of Jesus of Nazareth and do follow this way, do come to "know the truth." In this way, God reveals His self to the one who has come, and in this way, God is "known." It doesn't matter what name mankind uses, it is to "know" God that is important.

In the love of God,

DW Suiter

Rabbio,

First I hope that your health is improving and pray for the same. I find your prolonged presence to be enlightening for all of us.



I will not argue the absence of an agenda as the author made it clear that he had an agenda. I used the post because it very clearly made a point of attempting to demonstrate the words used and help point out that the translations of "Yah" into English and other languages was translated away from the actual use of the word.

I still think the information is useful despite the argument brought up in the entire post that the "proper" pronunciation of the name of Jesus or more so the "proper" spelling is YESHUA. If he too is incorrect; then I go with my original statement that we should use the current spelling as it is understood even if incorrect. TBH the use of the current and understood spelling/pronunciation is unlikely to have your prayers mis-delivered I think the angels know who they are for.

I am curious though that the common use of the double wording "YH YHWH" being seemingly more frequent than either singularly. Once again I must admit I do not read Hebrew and deal with others having translated the materials. As such since we do not know the pronunciation of his name except in our inner hearts and soles and if we call out for him I still think he hears and will provide for those that ask.


As far as the other issues with the first post in this thread well those are the reason, I began harping on his use of the singular "YAH" verses the longer "YHWH" much more commonly used among those that believe in the Bible. At this point I stop as I no longer know how to word the rest and expect you know more than I do anyway.