It is a sad situation when desperate individuals begin advertising and posting links to their P O R N related businesses featuring H a r d c o r e Sex in church forum sites such as this.

As well, it was already bad enough that other lowlifes such as these and those trying to sell you your own business for a minimum $2000.00 i n v e s t m e n t. Filling our mailboxes with their junk. Which 99 times out of 100 are not pertinent to our own interests, dreams, desires and for many, their own personal capabilities. Oh I'm not saying that it is not possible to get rich, but does it have to be a scheme? Does it have to be quick and an overnight success? It seems that no matter how much we stand up and say, Not Interested, These con artists think we haven't heard all they want to sell us.

Well, I'm tired of it. I live in whats known as a non re-buttal State, so that as soon as a telemarketer misconstrues my lack of interests, you know the part where I simply say, "I'm not interested" as that of my being unsure. Which is why they are trained to reply to that comment by saying many many things to keep you on the phone, hopefully until you change your mind. But as soon as they say any one thing other than, OK, Good Bye, and ending the call. Such as when they most often ask "Are you sure?." Where I live, that is a violation of the law, and that person and the company they are working for can be fined $2500 to $10000 each, per occurance.

Personally, I am listed on the Do Not Call List in my country. My home address is also registered to prevent all unrequested solicitations and junk mail from arriving here. It is a violation of State and Federal law to contact me at my home. If I am looking for your services, I will seek you out and you should be prepared for when I do, because I will check your references.

Furthermore, you should'nt begin our conversation by asking me to refer 3 other individuals and explain that how if I do, you can offer me a free dinner for 2. I am a chef, I've not eaten at any restaurant in the country which I find more pleasing than that which comes from my own kitchen. If you do what I employ you to do, and you do it well and to the best of your abilities. I may very well suggest others contact you, but under NO circumstances am I going to invite you to aggrevate my friends and family even before I myself know of your abilities and professionalism.

Many of those who mail out such unsolicited junk mail are relying on the rule of numbers. Send out 10 millions copies, recieve 7 orders. Send out another 10 million, even if back to the same people and maybe recieve even a dozen more orders.

For me personally, When I recieve junk mail, I contact the company, make note of the manager(s) name(s), inform them that this is junk mail and that I have not requested to recieve it. Further I inform them that any future mailings will be forwarded to the Federal Trade Commissions Center for SPAM. What I find most interesting is that these companies are required to provide a link for automatic removal (This is LAW). However, those links do not work. Furthermore, they suggest that I follow such link and remove myself. Wrong, I will not put forth any more effort to provide them having to not work. I did not put my name on their list, and I do not feel I am obligated to remove it myself. They put it there, they can remove it or face the fines associated with harrassment and the violation of interstate commerce laws which they may be charged with.

People lets wake up, lets not take this anymore. When you get this type of mail, do not click reply, (it'll come back as undelivered anyway) contact the ISP of the sender, contact their webmaster with your complaint. Investigate the originator of the mailing and contact those companies they are advertising, make your complaint known to them and by all means, if you are a citizen of the USA, forward the mailing to mailto:spam@uce.gov so remember now, click the forward button and address it to: spam at uce . gov. Especially make note to the FTC if you've tried the automatic removal or link provided by law and what the results were, such as mail continuing to come from them, or having mail returned as undeliverable. The FTC really appreciates having proof of such violations of our federal laws.

In closing, it is my hopes that others will find some comfort in knowing, you dont have to take this.

Respectfully

Reverend Jack

Are you reading intolerant?

You cant leave that here!

Take Your Spam Elsewhere, It is not desired here

It's a 'robot' that autoposts on hundreds of forums that allow anonymous access. You can reply all day but they never read what you write.

I'm aware that most are, and also KNOW that some others are not. This particular one is questionable. Considering where and how the post shows.

However, one thing has come to mind about them. And that is, instead of just sitting here watching them bog down our system. What if ALL of our members were to reply. I dont mean here on the forum, but to the actual server, more particular to the webmaster from the server in which it is originating from?. Hhm, million's of emails all replying to one sysop expressing how their garbage is not welcomed. Better yet, spreading the gospel of that which we all believe. You know, the ol' Do Unto Others... The only question is, Is It Right?

It is a sad state of affairs, and while theoretically possible, will probably never happen. Another will just take its place. It would seem that the board's administration would need to set controls requiring not only validation of registrants, but also possibly other requirements for first-time posting. I'm assuming that guests can't post?

Hopefully my response will not ruffle too many feathers...

I am a Moderator over at CamaroZ28.com which has been online for a decade and has over 60,000 members. The site does its best to maintain a PG-13 rating although that does become a bit "stretched" in the Lounge area...

Spammers attempt every day to leave messages. Basically, removing spam and blocking the IP address and/or user name of the spammer is a standard part of the job description of any moderator with sufficient priviledges to do so.

In no way am I being critical ofg the Moderation team or the Admins of this site, but if additional help is required perhaps they could select an active and trusted senior member to assist with the daily duties? I am not volunteering, as much as I would like to help, simply due to the time contraints of my business. Moderation takes time and time is the one thing that is in short supply at this point in my life.

I run many web sites and deal with 'spammers' on a daily basis.

Most of these people sign up with throw away e-mail addresses and links provided go to sites that give ad revenue using 'click thru' technology -- the spammer earns money through the clicks he attracts by posting his messages.

Replying to these threads is only highlighting them for everyone to read and possibly click on, allowing the spammer to earn money.

The best way to deal with this is to run a tighter ship here and prevent these spam bots from signing up to begin with and to prune these accounts as soon as they appear.

There are settings on phpbb that can be used to prevent this abuse, sadly the administrator of this forum either doesn't want to fix it or doesn't know how.

Wow, thats terrible... and it shocked me when I saw the auto post and I though a person couldn't be stupid enough to do that. Then I'm reminded about my Yahoo chat days with the bots spamming the holy drippings from my womb. Wow I can't believe I just typed that, anyway I feel your frustration... literally **empath jazz hands**

Never reply to any such posts or emails! You'll simply be added to their sucker list.