Dattaji
Jul 19 2008, 02:10 PM
O learned and devoted servants of God!
Let us pray for the folks at the Westboro Baptist Church in Toepeka, Kansas; that they should realize the divine LOVE of God who does not hate anyone. Let us pray for the removal of the terrorism within our own borders, which they are trying to cause. Let us pray for the removal of fear and hatred from their hearts. Let us pray they realize that if God didn't like homosexuality, it would not have existed.
As I commented a friend of mine: "Bible says "revenge is mine". The God loves even His enemies proving that love is infinite. Love is God. God is infinite and so Love is infinite. Such infinite love can only attract the God."
truthseeker
Jul 19 2008, 05:48 PM
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O learned and devoted servants of God!
Let us pray for the folks at the Westboro Baptist Church in Toepeka, Kansas; that they should realize the divine LOVE of God who does not hate anyone. Let us pray for the removal of the terrorism within our own borders, which they are trying to cause. Let us pray for the removal of fear and hatred from their hearts. Let us pray they realize that if God didn't like homosexuality, it would not have existed.
As I commented a friend of mine: "Bible says "revenge is mine". The God loves even His enemies proving that love is infinite. Love is God. God is infinite and so Love is infinite. Such infinite love can only attract the God."
I stand in agreement with your stance against Westboro. While I dont agree with your statement about God and homosexuality, the problems that Westboro cause run much deeper than just that. Basically, they hate EVERYONE who is not of their group. They have protested at funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq, and other hate mongering. I stand in agreement with you against their hatred.
jmsmith68
Jul 21 2008, 01:48 AM
You said "...if god didn't like homosexuality, it would have not existed." Then why does terrorism, hatred, and all terrible things exist?
Dattaji
Jul 21 2008, 02:03 AM
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You said "...if god didn't like homosexuality, it would have not existed." Then why does terrorism, hatred, and all terrible things exist?
Due to people's blind worldly attachment. God is not responsible for any of those "terrible things"
truthseeker
Jul 21 2008, 07:09 AM
("Dattaji":9dgw8qbk)
("jmsmith68":9dgw8qbk)
You said "...if god didn't like homosexuality, it would have not existed." Then why does terrorism, hatred, and all terrible things exist?
Due to people's blind worldly attachment. God is not responsible for any of those "terrible things"
Nor is he responsible for homosexuality. I wouldnt, however, as the other poster did, equate it to terrorism..that ludicrious
To`na Wanagi
Jul 21 2008, 01:37 PM
Nor is He responsible for mankind beating the dead horse, over and over again, expecting to resolve the problem of mankinds cart full of manure to going anywhere.
2 Peter:12-22 "But these, like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed, reviling where they have no knowledge, will in the destruction of those creatures also be destroyed,
suffering wrong as the wages of doing wrong. They count it a pleasure to revel in the daytime. They are stains and blemishes, reveling in their deceptions, as they carouse with you;
having eyes full of adultery and that never cease fromsin; enticing unstable souls, having a heart trained in greed, accursed children;
forsaking the right way they have gone astray, having followed the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness,
but he received a rebuke for his own transgressions; for a dumb donkey, speaking with the voice of a man, restrained the madness of the prophet.
These are springs without water, and mists driven by a storm, for whom the dark blackness has been reserved.
For speaking out arrogant words of vanity they entice by fleshly desires, by sensuality, those who barely escaped from the ones who live in error,
promising them freedom while they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by what man is overcome, by this he is enslaved.
For if after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them ane are overcome, the last state has become worse than the first.
For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment delivered to them.
It has happened to them according to the true proverb, 'A dog returns to its own vomit' and, ' A sow after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire."
Leave to God the things of God and continue to go the way of mankind, hating others for their differences, condemning them for their infirmities, and judging them for living their life based on their own knowledge and perceptions of their Creator.
And also,
2 Peter 3:13-18 "But according to His promis we are looking for a new heaven and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells,
Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless,
and regard the patience of our Lord to be salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdome given him, wrote to you,
as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.
You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be open in your guard lest, being carried away by error and unprincipled men, you fall from your own steadfastness,
but grow in grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen."
Does a man who continues to beat a dead horse appear to be in "peace, spotless and blameless"? Or is he really a tormented soul, knowing it was his own cruelty to his animal that is also the cause for its untimely death, "being carried away by the errors of unprincipled men"? And so he continues to take his anguish and guilt out on his victim, knowing in his own mind, his acts of intolerance and anger have been seen by God. He has not seen nor reckoned God's patience as salvation. So, will God find this man in peace? Will the man grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus of Nazareth? Or, like the dog and the sow, will he return to the filth and corruption of the world, without knowing the principles of God, of love, tolerance, peace, and compassion? What does it profit a person to continue to beat this dead horse? Will it get you where you want to be, or will you yourself begin to take on the stench of death? Do you have ears to hear or eyes to see the meaning of these words? And do you have the sure knowledge of God that reconciles our hearts and minds to His peace and love that resolves these imaginary, manmade issues? Do you understand the message of His followers, teaching the Word, God's seed, as it is planted in our own minds by God and not of the seed of the weeds of mankind?......
Wakan Tanka, unsima'la ye wanitka ca!....Great Spirit have pity on us, we shall live!...It is the cry of a people who feel imprisoned by the evils and hatred of mankind....God's Love and Peace to those who do not persecute nor judge, who walk in peace and harmony with those who are different from ourselves, and to those who have gained the wisdom and sure knowledge of God, from God, and not of man....To`na Wanagi
Dattaji
Jul 21 2008, 03:38 PM
I do not mean to condone homosexuality, nor any other "terrible thing". This is a prayer request; to pray for those people who hate.
truthseeker
Jul 21 2008, 03:41 PM
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I do not mean to condone homosexuality, nor any other "terrible thing". This is a prayer request; to pray for those people who hate.
And I am in agreement with you.
ministerklr
Aug 15 2008, 12:46 AM
God hates sin no matter where it is in this world.
Minister KLR
~Halo~
Oct 8 2008, 05:34 PM
This is likely to make me unpopular, but i believe that there was a significant homosexual relationship in the OT that gets overlooked, or twisted beyond what is actually written
The next time someone wants to bash the bible over your alternative lifestyle...throw this scripture out at them:
2 Sam 1:26
(read 1 Sam Chapter 20 and beyond for whole story)
SeekerOfTruth
Oct 8 2008, 07:08 PM
The parable of the Centurion and his 'beloved servant' can reasonably be interpreted as Jesus tolerating homosexual relationships - and more. See
(LINK) for more information.