God is always unimaginable and unknowable for any human being
God is always unimaginable and unknowable for any human being and under any circumstances because He is beyond the dimensions of space and time. This is very much stressed in the Veda and the Gita. There is no second thought about this point and Shankara also said the same when He said that God could be understood only in deep sleep. In deep sleep (Sushupti) there is no entity that understands (Jnata) because the process of understanding (Jnanam) disappears. When the process of burning disappears, there is no fire. If you say that the process of knowing itself is the knower, then also the knower is absent because there is no process of knowing in deep sleep. The knower can no more be a knower if the knower loses the process or quality of knowing. Then the knower is converted into an inert item in deep sleep. Infact, this is true according to science also because the knower or process of knowing is converted into inert energy in deep sleep. Shankara means by His statement that God is unknown as indicated by deep sleep, in which a state of total ignorance remains, indicating that one is totally ignorant about God (Sushuptyekasiddhah…). You cannot say that the knower or the process of knowing (knowledge) itself is God, because in that case, God is not eternal but vanishes daily (converted into inert energy) and is born daily (inert energy is converted into the knower or knowledge). This is not acceptable because God is eternal.
To evaluate the unknown answer [in Mathematics], you represent the answer by X and then get the answer for X using the given data. But in the case of God, the answer will always be unknowable and unimaginable. The link between the unknowable God and the knowable items of the world is also unknowable and hence no data related to God can be knowable. In the Mathematical problem, since the answer is knowable, the data related to the knowable answer is also knowable with the help of which the knowable [unknown] answer can be evaluated. But that is not the case with God. Hence, any knowable item of the creation can be made as the representative of God. The only knowable experience about God is that God exists.
I think that you are trying to hard to know God.
Perhaps I can make it a bit easier for you and all who read this.
God, is in every living thing in the Universe. God, the Creator, is the God of the living. The "Light of Life."
In every living thing in the Universe, from any living thing smaller than the atom to the largest planetoid object, there is a, "Spark of Life." That, "Spark of Life," is a part of God. It has all the knowledge needed to make whatever it is in, do what is needed to work with everything else in the Universe to keep a balanced order in this material and the Spiritual Universe. (Heaven) In essence, we are in the God within us.
Jesus knew this. He tried to tell of this, but they didn't understand. Jesus tried many ways to foreward this information, but, it was way over their heads. And it appears to be way over the heads of most people today.
Jesus knew that to get close to God, you had to give yourself whole heartedly with all your might and soul. The cleaner you keep your soul the brighter the light within will shine. The brighter the light, the easier to see. (understand) That's why he said, to think about doing wrong is just as bad as doing wrong. Bad thoughts and or actions darken the light within. Bad thoughts, bad actions, equal negative energy. Negative energy equals darkness. Good energy equals light. Love is the best energy. The brightest energy. The more you love, the better you feel. When you are feeling really good love, you glow brightly.
When you glow brightly, you are closer to God. The closer you get to God, the more you KNOW God.
Believing is not the same as knowing. Believing is based on faith. Knowing is based on fact. When you can see the light of God, like Moses and the burning bush, (Light of Life) you KNOW there is a God.
May the Light of God shine in you.
Perhaps I can make it a bit easier for you and all who read this.
God, is in every living thing in the Universe. God, the Creator, is the God of the living. The "Light of Life."
In every living thing in the Universe, from any living thing smaller than the atom to the largest planetoid object, there is a, "Spark of Life." That, "Spark of Life," is a part of God. It has all the knowledge needed to make whatever it is in, do what is needed to work with everything else in the Universe to keep a balanced order in this material and the Spiritual Universe. (Heaven) In essence, we are in the God within us.
Jesus knew this. He tried to tell of this, but they didn't understand. Jesus tried many ways to foreward this information, but, it was way over their heads. And it appears to be way over the heads of most people today.
Jesus knew that to get close to God, you had to give yourself whole heartedly with all your might and soul. The cleaner you keep your soul the brighter the light within will shine. The brighter the light, the easier to see. (understand) That's why he said, to think about doing wrong is just as bad as doing wrong. Bad thoughts and or actions darken the light within. Bad thoughts, bad actions, equal negative energy. Negative energy equals darkness. Good energy equals light. Love is the best energy. The brightest energy. The more you love, the better you feel. When you are feeling really good love, you glow brightly.
When you glow brightly, you are closer to God. The closer you get to God, the more you KNOW God.
Believing is not the same as knowing. Believing is based on faith. Knowing is based on fact. When you can see the light of God, like Moses and the burning bush, (Light of Life) you KNOW there is a God.
May the Light of God shine in you.
QUOTE (dattaswami @ May 29 2008, 03:19 PM) 
God is always unimaginable and unknowable for any human being
God is always unimaginable and unknowable for any human being and under any circumstances because He is beyond the dimensions of space and time. This is very much stressed in the Veda and the Gita. There is no second thought about this point and Shankara also said the same when He said that God could be understood only in deep sleep. In deep sleep (Sushupti) there is no entity that understands (Jnata) because the process of understanding (Jnanam) disappears. When the process of burning disappears, there is no fire. If you say that the process of knowing itself is the knower, then also the knower is absent because there is no process of knowing in deep sleep. The knower can no more be a knower if the knower loses the process or quality of knowing. Then the knower is converted into an inert item in deep sleep. Infact, this is true according to science also because the knower or process of knowing is converted into inert energy in deep sleep. Shankara means by His statement that God is unknown as indicated by deep sleep, in which a state of total ignorance remains, indicating that one is totally ignorant about God (Sushuptyekasiddhah…). You cannot say that the knower or the process of knowing (knowledge) itself is God, because in that case, God is not eternal but vanishes daily (converted into inert energy) and is born daily (inert energy is converted into the knower or knowledge). This is not acceptable because God is eternal.
To evaluate the unknown answer [in Mathematics], you represent the answer by X and then get the answer for X using the given data. But in the case of God, the answer will always be unknowable and unimaginable. The link between the unknowable God and the knowable items of the world is also unknowable and hence no data related to God can be knowable. In the Mathematical problem, since the answer is knowable, the data related to the knowable answer is also knowable with the help of which the knowable [unknown] answer can be evaluated. But that is not the case with God. Hence, any knowable item of the creation can be made as the representative of God. The only knowable experience about God is that God exists.
God is always unimaginable and unknowable for any human being and under any circumstances because He is beyond the dimensions of space and time. This is very much stressed in the Veda and the Gita. There is no second thought about this point and Shankara also said the same when He said that God could be understood only in deep sleep. In deep sleep (Sushupti) there is no entity that understands (Jnata) because the process of understanding (Jnanam) disappears. When the process of burning disappears, there is no fire. If you say that the process of knowing itself is the knower, then also the knower is absent because there is no process of knowing in deep sleep. The knower can no more be a knower if the knower loses the process or quality of knowing. Then the knower is converted into an inert item in deep sleep. Infact, this is true according to science also because the knower or process of knowing is converted into inert energy in deep sleep. Shankara means by His statement that God is unknown as indicated by deep sleep, in which a state of total ignorance remains, indicating that one is totally ignorant about God (Sushuptyekasiddhah…). You cannot say that the knower or the process of knowing (knowledge) itself is God, because in that case, God is not eternal but vanishes daily (converted into inert energy) and is born daily (inert energy is converted into the knower or knowledge). This is not acceptable because God is eternal.
To evaluate the unknown answer [in Mathematics], you represent the answer by X and then get the answer for X using the given data. But in the case of God, the answer will always be unknowable and unimaginable. The link between the unknowable God and the knowable items of the world is also unknowable and hence no data related to God can be knowable. In the Mathematical problem, since the answer is knowable, the data related to the knowable answer is also knowable with the help of which the knowable [unknown] answer can be evaluated. But that is not the case with God. Hence, any knowable item of the creation can be made as the representative of God. The only knowable experience about God is that God exists.
Knowing God part ll
Knowing there is a God, gives you a clearer mind to focus your prayers. When you, "KNOW", there is no doubt.
When you pray for someone or something with the belief that there is a God, you are praying with the hope of an answer.
When you pray for someone or something KNOWING there is a God, you KNOW that your prayer will be answered, one way or another, when the time is right. That's where patience and understanding come in.
You must be clear as to what you pray for, because the answer may not be what you expected, but, will be for the best.
God, KNOWS, what is right. For God is the maker of all good things, and all that is right. Not just here on this planet. But, everywhere in the living Universe. For every living thing in the Universe, is part of, God, and is forever, when you are in the knowing. For, I tell you this; every insect that crawleth the Earth, every fish that swims the seas, every fowl that flyeth through the air, and every animal but man, KNOWS that there is a God, and does the will of God.
Mankind, needs constant reminders.
That's why we have ministers, prophets, and the like.
Thank you God, for letting me be the one to pass this knowledge on to mankind.
Amen.
When all of mankind KNOWS that there is a God, and does the will of God, they will be protected from what is to come, in the near future. As it is right now, only a handfull of the population are protected.
Give yourselves to God, with all your heart, all your soul and all your might.
Ask, and you shall receive.
Seek, and you shall find.
Knock, and the door shall be opened.
May the Light of God shine brightly in all so that all may see the truth more clearly.
Amen.
Go by the way of the Lord.
Reverend Robert.
Knowing there is a God, gives you a clearer mind to focus your prayers. When you, "KNOW", there is no doubt.
When you pray for someone or something with the belief that there is a God, you are praying with the hope of an answer.
When you pray for someone or something KNOWING there is a God, you KNOW that your prayer will be answered, one way or another, when the time is right. That's where patience and understanding come in.
You must be clear as to what you pray for, because the answer may not be what you expected, but, will be for the best.
God, KNOWS, what is right. For God is the maker of all good things, and all that is right. Not just here on this planet. But, everywhere in the living Universe. For every living thing in the Universe, is part of, God, and is forever, when you are in the knowing. For, I tell you this; every insect that crawleth the Earth, every fish that swims the seas, every fowl that flyeth through the air, and every animal but man, KNOWS that there is a God, and does the will of God.
Mankind, needs constant reminders.
That's why we have ministers, prophets, and the like.
Thank you God, for letting me be the one to pass this knowledge on to mankind.
Amen.
When all of mankind KNOWS that there is a God, and does the will of God, they will be protected from what is to come, in the near future. As it is right now, only a handfull of the population are protected.
Give yourselves to God, with all your heart, all your soul and all your might.
Ask, and you shall receive.
Seek, and you shall find.
Knock, and the door shall be opened.
May the Light of God shine brightly in all so that all may see the truth more clearly.
Amen.
Go by the way of the Lord.
Reverend Robert.
QUOTE (Reverend Robert @ May 31 2009, 03:43 AM)
I think that you are trying to hard to know God.
Perhaps I can make it a bit easier for you and all who read this.
God, is in every living thing in the Universe. God, the Creator, is the God of the living. The "Light of Life."
In every living thing in the Universe, from any living thing smaller than the atom to the largest planetoid object, there is a, "Spark of Life." That, "Spark of Life," is a part of God. It has all the knowledge needed to make whatever it is in, do what is needed to work with everything else in the Universe to keep a balanced order in this material and the Spiritual Universe. (Heaven) In essence, we are in the God within us.
Jesus knew this. He tried to tell of this, but they didn't understand. Jesus tried many ways to foreward this information, but, it was way over their heads. And it appears to be way over the heads of most people today.
Jesus knew that to get close to God, you had to give yourself whole heartedly with all your might and soul. The cleaner you keep your soul the brighter the light within will shine. The brighter the light, the easier to see. (understand) That's why he said, to think about doing wrong is just as bad as doing wrong. Bad thoughts and or actions darken the light within. Bad thoughts, bad actions, equal negative energy. Negative energy equals darkness. Good energy equals light. Love is the best energy. The brightest energy. The more you love, the better you feel. When you are feeling really good love, you glow brightly.
When you glow brightly, you are closer to God. The closer you get to God, the more you KNOW God.
Believing is not the same as knowing. Believing is based on faith. Knowing is based on fact. When you can see the light of God, like Moses and the burning bush, (Light of Life) you KNOW there is a God.
May the Light of God shine in you.
Perhaps I can make it a bit easier for you and all who read this.
God, is in every living thing in the Universe. God, the Creator, is the God of the living. The "Light of Life."
In every living thing in the Universe, from any living thing smaller than the atom to the largest planetoid object, there is a, "Spark of Life." That, "Spark of Life," is a part of God. It has all the knowledge needed to make whatever it is in, do what is needed to work with everything else in the Universe to keep a balanced order in this material and the Spiritual Universe. (Heaven) In essence, we are in the God within us.
Jesus knew this. He tried to tell of this, but they didn't understand. Jesus tried many ways to foreward this information, but, it was way over their heads. And it appears to be way over the heads of most people today.
Jesus knew that to get close to God, you had to give yourself whole heartedly with all your might and soul. The cleaner you keep your soul the brighter the light within will shine. The brighter the light, the easier to see. (understand) That's why he said, to think about doing wrong is just as bad as doing wrong. Bad thoughts and or actions darken the light within. Bad thoughts, bad actions, equal negative energy. Negative energy equals darkness. Good energy equals light. Love is the best energy. The brightest energy. The more you love, the better you feel. When you are feeling really good love, you glow brightly.
When you glow brightly, you are closer to God. The closer you get to God, the more you KNOW God.
Believing is not the same as knowing. Believing is based on faith. Knowing is based on fact. When you can see the light of God, like Moses and the burning bush, (Light of Life) you KNOW there is a God.
May the Light of God shine in you.
If God is in every human being, God is present in your self also. Then why should you serve all? You can serve yourself repeatedly. Instead of serving 100 people, you serve yourself 100 times. In both cases God is worshiped 100 times. In such case every selfish fellow also is a real servant of God! If you say that God is divided into bits and every human being is having a bit of God and unless you serve everybody the whole God is not served. This is absurd because there is only one God who is indivisible. In such case unless you serve all the human beings on this earth, the service to whole God cannot be completed and this is practically impossible!
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