I am very much anxious to get a child and good health?

You are getting everything according to your present deeds and also the past deeds. The Lord has arranged the cycles of your births. In each cycle happiness and misery are alternatively arranged leaving the sequence of good and bad deeds. Even if you have done two sins subsequently the fruits of the two sins are not given to you subsequently. The result of a good deed is penetrated in between these two sins. Like this the Lord has arranged all your life cycles at present and in the future. If you are pestering Him, He will bring the result of good deed from the future cycle to the present cycle as a pre-matured fixed deposit with reduced value. By such interference your future life cycles will be filled with misery. Then you will scold the Lord crying “Oh! Lord you have given me misery from birth to death”. You don’t remember your foolish interference in the past birth.

The other way is that the Lord in human form should transfer your sin on Him and should suffer for your sake. This path is possible only when you don’t aspire for this path and worship the Lord in human form by sacrificing all your bonds of the world. This is possible only for a true devotee who never wishes that the Lord should suffer for his or her sake. Such true devotee will be worshipping the Lord without aspiring anything in return. One has to understand the theory of Karma and the devotion towards Lord. The Lord suffers for the sins of His true devotees only who are really serving the Lord in practice by doing Karma Sanyasa (Sacrifice of work) and Karma Phala Tyaga (Sacrifice of the fruit of work) in His mission without aspiring anything in return. In such service even an Iota of desire should not be present even in any biological cell of the human being. This is called ‘NISHKAMA KARMA YOGA’ AS EMPHASIZED IN GITA.

i am so sorry again to have to disagree with you yet again in matthew chapter 8 verses 2-3 it states And behold there came a leper and worshipped him saying Lord if thou wilt thou canst make me clean and Jesus put forth his hand and touched him saying i will be thou clean and immediately his leprosy was cleansed Jesus did not say go away becouse of your past life u have this leprosy peace and love to all

[[/quote] i am so sorry again to have to disagree with you yet again in matthew chapter 8 verses 2-3 it states And behold there came a leper and worshipped him saying Lord if thou wilt thou canst make me clean and Jesus put forth his hand and touched him saying i will be thou clean and immediately his leprosy was cleansed Jesus did not say go away becouse of your past life u have this leprosy peace and love to all[/quote]

The problem here is that you love Jesus because He is a means for you to get worldly pleasures and cure etc.


This is not true love on lord.

Your service to Lord should not aspire anything in return, such people only are HIS PEOPLE. Such people only become dear and near to Him.

all life is dear to the lord be you sinner or saint

I agree, all life is very dear to Lord Jesus, Lord Jesus wish to have only one bond with Him.

The relationship of the devotee with the Lord is called devotion. Devotion is love for he Lord. Love is proved by service or seva. Claims of love without service are fraudulent. Praying, meditation, intellectual discussions, words, feelings or singing hymns does not substantiate devotion. If a husband loves his wife then he must serve her when she is ill. If he just sits by her side with his eyes closed or meditates upon her or chants her name aloud, while refusing to practically serve her by giving her medicines, food and drink, then he is only making a show of love; he does not really love her. The one who really loves her will serve her.

The Lord is pleased only with total devotion. The Gita says “eka bhakti? visi?yate”. He wants the devotee to love Him alone; not anyone or anything else. Nobody or nothing should be equal to Him. He will make the devotee reach this stage of devotion. This is the essence of all the datta parik?a or the tests of the Lord. The devotee will be tested severely till he breaks all bonds with everyone and everything in the world, till only the bond with the Lord remains. The Lord does not compromise in this aspect. He will not tolerate even a drop of the devotee's attachment to anything or anyone in the world.

Like it says We are all children of the same universe lets agree to disagree ok

For us, human being, God is available in human form in this world itself. One has to identify Him from His divine knoweldge here itself and serve Him without any selfish desire.

My point was that, in stead of our selfish prayer, we should ask for love to Him.

OK you can pray for your personal needs, but you should not sit all the time in that level. One should go above that level and try to love Lord WITHOUT ANY EXPECTATION.

I agree with you whole hartedly but ...
Is not that why we got free will that is why u can have one religion saying for example holding hands is a sin while the other thinks its ok who is right who is wrong only God can judge

The soul develops ego during its lifetime by helping other souls. The ego is the most dangerous snake that enters the self without your notice. The ego hides itself in the subconscious state of mind and you will be feeling that you are not at all egoistic. It is like a first stage of cancer, which is generally not noticed. Such hidden ego is smashed when you kneel before God on your fore legs and beg for the basic necessities. The saint practices this through begging the houses for food so that the concept of donor shall vanish away. God alone is the ultimate donor.

Thanj you for verifying my pont about ego.

As long as ego exists...GOD cannot exist in ones' being. Dictionary: Ones' self, ones self as a person, a deep interest in oneself, conceit.

Do you wish to follow GOD or follow your own self conceit???

One can say the same about someone who rants just to hear themselves. THAT is EGO.


Rev. JOhn

Dattaswammie;
If everything you say is true, then it was pointless for God to send Jesus to us who believe in Him. After all, if God demands our full attention, then why would he have sent His Son who exhorted us to serve one another, love one another, and believe in Him who sent the Son? I guess we are all just a world of puppets and marionettes who are here to entertain a very selfish God who really doesn't care about anyone or anything He created.
Sorry, but I love my God more than I could even acknowledge your God who thinks only of Himself. Now that's the supreme EGO! But, whatever trips your trigger, I guess. The ULC asks only for us to love/believe in God and do what is right. Allowing a person to starve or freeze to death on the street while idly standing by, (entertaining God, I guess) is not doing what is right. As for serving other souls, it is what my Master commands of me....Peace out!......To`na Wanagi

Here the problem is that Lord Jesus is not infront of you now, and your devotion to Him is only theoretical that any body can claim in mind. It is so easy to do. But when Lord is available in human form, to love Him is very very difficult, becasue He is in human body just like us. There is every chance that even though Lord is infront of us in human form, it is very difficult to accept Him in the first place. Then comes the practical sacrifice in His mission of divine knowledge propagation giving Him the top most place. It is very very difficult. Huge gap between theory and practice. Love measn 100%. When Lord in human form compete with other bonds, and if you give Him 100% weightage, then all other priority will become lesser compared to love to Him. Hence all other bonds will feel negligence compared to the bond with Lord in human form. That is the reason why Lord Jesus told

“If any one comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple’’.

Jesus was not kidding also, God comes in every human generation the fundamental principle remains the same to love Him more than anything in this world. Lord is impartial and He gives chance to all the geneneration by coming in human form.