My son died in an accident why God is so cruel?

Your question shows that you are not the real devotee of the Lord. Your son must have been a real devotee as expressed by your own words. He was born to you by his previous action (Prarabdha). In your association he will be certainly spoiled. Therefore the Lord wanted to change him as a son of another real devotee. He allowed some time to see whether you will change as a real devotee so that your son may continue with you. But you have not changed because you are scolding the Lord for cutting your bond with your son. Actually all the family bonds should be cut for the sake of the bond with the Lord. Just like you change your son from a school containing bad students to a school with good students, the Lord changed your son to the atmosphere of a real devotee. Thus the Lord protected your son. In His view, removing this external body is just like removing the shirt. In your view, such removal of shirt is cruelty. Therefore always be firm that the Lord is always the protector and He is kindest towards all His real devotees.

I have thought long and hard about your question and i must sinserly disagree with my brother or sister that posted the last remark
In our greaf we always blame someone as you stated it was an accident but god is good and one day you will be reunited with your son
dont give up heart god loves everyone did he not give his only begotten son to die on the cross so that our sins may be forgiven ?
Yes it was cruel that your son was taken away but he must have been a special person becouse he is loved by you
and you have all the happy memories of him time they say is a great healer
im not saying it will go over night but in time it will be easy on the heart to heal i am not saying forget about your son no he was your son and you loved him as god loves him think of all the happy times you was together and i will pray for you be strong god will guide you and protect you .

In the following 'you' is a general term only.

Your reply shows that you are not a true devotee of God. Because you are questioning God for taking that soul from this world. Who are you to question God's action? Do you know the eternal position of any soul? Do you know the acts either mentally and physically done by a soul from birth to death? Do you know the previous birth of a soul? Can you weigh pros and cons of a souls deeds?

No. You are only a human beings. And Lord is your Father. Father is like a teacher. This world is like a class room. All the souls are His children only and the students in this class room. The worldly father and mother is not the real father and mother. They are temporary only. In fact worldly father and mother are also students only . With one teacher 'Our Heavenly Father'. One Father want to change a particular soul from one class room to other you are objecting! WHo are you to object Fathers decision?

YOu are praying Lord to solve your material problems, which you yourselves have created. You like God, becasue you can use His power for your personal needs> How bad it is? Such people are not dear to Lord. Lord love those who love Him WITHOUT ANY SELFISH DESIRE. His devotees will undergo all the troubles without any complaint. They know that troubles are the thing which take one to God. Such great devotees always love even when their devotees died or not. They have only one Bond with Lord. They know the temporary nature of this world and the family relatioins.

But what is happening now, people want to strengthen worldly bonds using Lords power! What a foolish thing this is. Such people are the lowest level people. They do not want to undergo trouble in their life which they themself have created. They want GOd, beacuse they think that God is useful to them! When they remember God the first idea come to their mind is about His power, which can be used to solve their worldly problmes.

Initialy, the kind Lord even hear to such selfish people prayer also. In their case Lord simply re-arrages the fruits of their deeds. He will simply transfer a fruit of good deed which he suppose to enjoy in future with a reduced value to the present and post pone the present trouble with increased interest to the future time. The kind Lord also, give happiness to the soul so that He think hopelessly that alteast by this also these souls will turn to Him from the world! But, what is happening,they are strengthening the worldly bonds at the cost of God and inturn which takes them away from Lord.

So, when troubles come accept it and enjoy it. Do not run away from it. Instead you pray to God to have love on Him irrespective of the troubles!!

thankyou for your comments brother but judge ye not lest you be judged yourself

True. But i just wanted to tell you that LOVE ON LORD IS SO SACRED. In the above reply, 'you' include this 'me' also.

The love of the Lord is a sacrad thing and thou shalt not take the lords name invane
but all i am saying brother is this
How can her life which is now be damaged by her past lifes and why isent she a true devotee of God when he welcomes all to his house is he not our Farther dident Jesus die for the sins of the world if thy brother resepass against thee rebuke him and if he repent forgive him God is a forgiving god he gave us free will to make up our own minds and to make our own mistakes and like a farther forgives us of our sins and welcomes us with open arms

Lord want us to have only one bond with HIM. Love to Him only save us. Our children, our parents, our relatives etc cannot save us. They are also collegue souls only, in this big class room (world).Your aim of life is to please Lord nothing else! All other activities are side activity only. Your aim in this life is to serve Lord. But ofcourse as a pre-requisite you have to serve you fellow Human beings also.

For a highest devotee, Lord only is the final aim.

But now the world is corrupted, poeple take the main activity as side activity and side activity as the main activity.

Whatever happens in this world is asper the wish of Lord only. You need not worry about it. Lord is capable of solving all the problems in this world. He is giving training to each souls for transformation and to know that this world is temporary. If you are intervening in His administration then you are considering Lord as irresponsible and a foolish guy.

The Lord is the writer of the constitution and He knows whom to punish. Some times you see punishment of innocent person. You think that the injustice is ruling. In the kingdom of God only the justice is the ruler by the grace of God. When the innocent is punished, the punishment was of some bad deed done by him previously and the date of the punishment coincided with the present incident accidentally.

God created all the souls and has the attitude of father towards His children. The father sometimes may have partiality in showing the love equally to his children. But God is always having infinite love for all the souls in equal manner. Even the punishments in the hell are meant for transformation of the souls from lower level to the higher level. God always tries to help the soul even if a trace of possibility exists in the cycle of the deeds.

One soul need not recommend about the other soul to God to show the grace. If somebody recommends to his father regarding the welfare of his brother, how foolish it looks! No soul should recommend to the God about other soul for protection or for showing the grace. If any soul recommends like that it is only insulting the infinite love of God. It is only the climax of the ignorance and the emotional love on the other soul, which lacks even the basic analysis of spiritual knowledge.

im not going to argue with u any more becouse this is a sight for prayer and peace lets start again i offer the hand of freindship all i am saying is greaf takes on many guises

I am sorry for your loss It is something that will be with you alway's ,but as time goes by (and it will seem like time stand's still ) your life will adjust to your loss,death is a fact of life,all thing's pass in thier own time and it was your son's time.I'm sorry that the time was he spent with you was short,but try to focus on the happy time you had with him.It is not your fault and God is not punishing you,Just cherish his memory and attempt to live the very best life you can
Rev.Wayne

I ,too, am sorry for your loss. One of my teachers asked me one time, "Why do you carry the memory of your loved one around like a sack of rocks? It is burdensome to you and serves no purpose but to keep you from being useful to the Creator. Do you think your loved one wants you to be burdened? Rather, lift up your memories as a feather that wafts away in the breeze and brings a smile to your face. It is better to remember with joy and know that someday you will rejoice together once more."
My people speak to our ancestors and they will answer if we listen to the wind and the sound of water, if we feel the warmth of the fire and the coolness of the Earth. These are the four elements of the Universe. Jesus spoke to a number of people who died and they heard Him. I speak often to my loved ones and hear their gentle response whispered softly in my heart.
Dattawattamie you speak well in the voice of your way. We must remember that not everyone will embrace your way, or my way. I'm not sure a debate is a good way to soothe the sorrow of our writer. I must defer to RevWayne on his point..........Peace and God's grace be bestowed on those who mourn.........To`na Wanagi

Even the bond with your child is unreal because the blood from your body entered into the body of other soul. This external gross body is destroyed here and the bond is destroyed with that gross body. The soul of Abhimanyu in heaven did not recognise his father, Arjuna, for the same reason. The bond with wife is more unreal which is formed due to touch between the two gross bodies, which are like the external clothes. The bond of the child perishes with the death. The bond with wife may die at any moment with divorce even with in the span of this life time, having a greater probability to give misery. The Gita says the same (Ye hi samsparsajaa bhogah …). A realised soul will not entertain himself in such unreal bonds (Na teshu ramate budhah – the Gita).

You are admitted in the college and your main aim is to get the degree. If you fail in the exams your main aim is upset, therefore, you should not get tension. Similarly you should have tension if the main aim of the human life i.e., to achieve the grace of God, fails. Except that, all this family life and relationships are only extra curricular activities. In your college life, a game is conducted as an extra curricular activity. Suppose you are defeated in it. You should take it sportively and not seriously, because that is not the main aim. Therefore take everything in life sportively, because, this life is not the ultimate aim. If family life only is the goal, even animals and birds have their family lives. The speciality of human life is to think and achieve the grace of God.

Again, you must understand some are not as advanced, or even sure of their path, or even what they believe. To disallow others to experience the emotions and feelings that dwell in what you refer to as the "gross body" is to deny them the opportunity to grow toward that which you have already claimed. I will share my compassion for those who mourn in this physical plane and love them as they are. You nor I have cornered the market on truth. By your own teachings, our finite intellect are so primitive that we are incapable of perceiving God. Thus everything that you, or I, or anyone else believes about their faith is purely conjecture and projection of our imaginations. Thank God for free will, otherwise all of us would be destined to exist in an awfully boring place and we would all just be pawns in a chess game where God is the only player. What joy is there for the Creator in that? Joy and love are human traits yet you have attributed these traits to God. In doing so, you, like the rest of the world, have "humanized" God and brought him down to our level. I love God and my path, not for some reward of heaven or an afterlife, but simply because I believe it is the right thing to do.There is an old saying, "If I can't dazzle them with brilliance, I will baffle them with baloney." I believe that when our intellect surpasses simple faith, then we have compromised God to be no more than human. My people call it "Wakan Tokahe Isnala", which means creative mystery is only and first. And that is easy for me to accept, that I will never understand the great Mystery, but will follow what I believe to be right. And that's okay with me. Wakan Tanka nici un he yawaste`. That is, "May the great Spirit direct your path and bless you."...... Peace to you on your journey.......To`na Wanagi

You are right>

Levels in Spirituality

Miracles are just fundamental level of elementary schools, which are widely spread everywhere, by the wish of God. Even evil people can do these miracles by black magic. The idea behind such wide covering range of miracles is that these miracles are useful in converting atheists into theists. For such elementary work, human incarnations or professors are not necessary.

The next level is Jnana Yoga, which is the level of high schools. The high schools are lesser in number than elementary schools because only some converted theists start the enquiry about the subject (Jnana Yoga) of the unimaginable God, since His existence was indirectly proved through the unimaginable miracles and He is the source of the unimaginable power behind the miracles.

The next higher level is formation of theoretical love (Bhakti Yoga) or devotion on the Lord since a few of the scholars of God get this and this level is the level of colleges.

The ultimate highest level is practical devotion (Karma Yoga) or service to God, which is the level of University and is very rare since a few of devotees only can become servants of God through practical sacrifice of work and fruit of work. The scientific analysis of divine knowledge (Jnana Yoga) is pervading all the four levels as the basic torchlight. In the first level, the existence of God is accepted. In the second level, the existence of unimaginable God is accepted.

In the third level, the representatives of God like statues in human form are worshipped by words and mind to get rid of ego and jealousy towards human form. In the fourth level, the decision of the final conclusion of the intellectual analysis results in detecting the contemporary human incarnation and involve in a practical service in His mission.

Thank you for the wonderful analogy Dattaswamie. We are fortunate to have you in our family. You have shown a responsibility to others by breaking down your theism so those on different levels can understand the path they might travel, if they choose to do so in this life.....Wopi`la Mitakola (Thank you my Friend).....To`na Wanagi

Initially the Lord attracts the devotee through miracles and creates belief and devotion in the mind of a human being. Thus the human being is converted into devotee. Thus from the stage of human being the soul carries on the journey to the stage of a devotee. This journey is taking place due to the effort of the Lord only. This is called as the “Marjala Kisora Nyaya”, which means the mother cat carrying on its off spring by catching it with her mouth. The effort of the human being is nil in this case. But the human being must have open mind to receive the help from the Lord and to recognize the existence of the super natural power of the Lord and thereby to recognize the existence of the Lord. For such situation the problems and troubles in the life which are due to Karma Chakra (The wheel of deeds) are also helping the soul. Thus the troubles are the real helpers towards the spiritual line. The misery due to the troubles is praised by the Lord in Gita (Aartho….. Udaaraah).

Kunti asked for constant troubles from the Lord. In this stage though the effort of the soul is nil, the soul must have flexibility and open mind to recognize the helper, the Lord. The impartial Lord gives this opportunity equally to all the human beings but the atheist due to absence of open mind and due to foolish rigidity does not accept the existence of the Lord even after such help. Thus though we say that the effort of the individual is nil in this case, to have open mind to realize the truth is also considered as the effort of the human being. When the effort of the human being exists, it is called as “Markata Kisora Nyaya”, which means the off spring is holding on itself by catching the womb of its mother-monkey. Thus both these lines always co-exist and are mutual to each other.

In the sacred book “Yoga Vasista”, the preacher Vasista preaches spiritual knowledge to Rama. In the very beginning itself Vasista emphasizes on the effort of the individual soul (Purusha Prayatna). Without the effort of the soul if the Lord has to carry on the devotee by His grip only, then the Lord has to carry on all the souls of the creation. Then only the Lord can become impartial. If that is done there is no meaning of the creation because the thrill of love disappears. The love of one in millions cannot be tasted by the Lord. If all the students in the class get cent percent and if all are given gold medals, then there is no thrill. But the teacher puts his effort equally on all the students and every student has equal opportunity to get the gold medal. When one gets the gold medal we cannot blame the teacher to be partial. The teacher wishes and puts equal effort on all the students and aspires every student to get the gold medal. But the fact is that only one gets the gold medal.

The aspiration of the teacher and his practical effort without any partiality is completely different and the actual fact that takes place is all together totally different. You cannot link these two contradicting extreme facts. It is true that the teacher wishes that every student should stand first and he puts equal effort on every student without any trace of partiality. At the same time it is also equally true that only one student stands first. From the point of the teacher we have to appreciate the way of mother cat. From the point of the student you have to appreciate the way of mother monkey. The teacher tries to carry on every student to the goal like the mother cat. But only one student reaches the goal because of his strongest grip. Thus both the lines are equally important from their own angles. The teacher is always like the mother cat. The off spring should be always like the baby monkey.

I am so sorry.
no one knows what God's plan is for us, and his ways seem strange and harsh to us sometimes. i.e. why do the good die young and sometime evil lasts a long time.

God Bless!

Some people say that even good people are unnecessarily harmed. They criticize God. You cannot decide any person as a good person. Did you observe him every minute from his birth? You also think yourself as a good person. Are you aware of your sins done in your childhood? You might have harmed an innocent insect in your childhood. Do you remember that? Even mental feelings are sins, which may not be expressed in words and actions. The feelings of the mind are the source of words and actions. Therefore the feeling may not hurt others today. But tomorrow it will hurt others which will come out in words and actions. In fact, intention is given more importance in the crime according to law. The judge gives more importance to the intention in giving the punishment. You are walking on the road and the ant is killed by your foot, without any intention. There is no punishment for such sins. But when you kill the same ant with intention, you are punished by God. Therefore mind is the source of action.

If somebody harmed really a good person, then also leave it to God. You should not revenge. Why? The reason is that you cannot judge the exact nature and line of the case. You do not remember your own sins. Some times you do the sin thinking that it is good. You cannot be the standard in judging your own sins. Only the Lord can decide. Therefore, if somebody harmed really a good person, in the view of the Lord also, then the Lord himself will punish him.

You cannot take the law and order in to your hand. You have to refer the case to the court. Let the Judge decide, and punish the criminal. Therefore the Lord said, “Revenge is Mine”. If the revenge is justified, the Lord will certainly punish. The Lord will not revenge if you pray Him to do so. The Lord, will not excuse even if you recommend the unjust case.

Neither you have the power to punish nor to excuse anybody. The reason for this is that you are not omniscient. If a sinner realizes the sin and repents, the punishment is reduced. After repentance if you do not repeat the sins, the punishment is cancelled. If the sinner does not repent, he will repeat the sin again and again. Such sinner can be controlled only by punishment. If this is not true the police department has no use. There are some sinners who can be controlled only by third degree treatment. If such punishment and revenge are not required, and if everybody can be transformed by preaching, then what is the necessity of the existence of’ Hell and Liquid Fire’.

If such possibility of transformation by love and knowledge is there, then why the Lord mentioned the word ‘revenge’ at all? Therefore this means that there are some sinners who cannot be transformed by love and knowledge. Some clever people criticize Lord Rama and Lord Krishna, who have resorted to punish the sinners. Such clever people should answer about the word ‘revenge’ uttered by the Lord and also should explain the mention of the liquid fire in the scriptures. If all the human beings can be transformed through love and knowledge such words should not have been mentioned in their scriptures.

God created all the souls and has the attitude of father towards His children. The father sometimes may have partiality in showing the love equally to his children. But God is always having infinite love for all the souls in equal manner. Even the punishments in the hell are meant for transformation of the souls from lower level to the higher level. God always tries to help the soul even if a trace of possibility exists in the cycle of the deeds.

One soul need not recommend about the other soul to God to show the grace. If somebody recommends to his father regarding the welfare of his brother, how foolish it looks! No soul should recommend to the God about other soul for protection or for showing the grace. If any soul recommends like that it is only insulting the infinite love of God. It is only the climax of the ignorance and the emotional love on the other soul, which lacks even the basic analysis of spiritual knowledge.

People often blame God stating that they are troubled since God created this world for His entertainment. They say that God is a sadist because He is entertained by their suffering. This is shear non-sense. God created this entire world consisting of the souls. Souls constitute Para Prakruti, which is a part of the creation. He gave complete freedom to the souls and gave the intelligence (Buddhi), which is the powerful faculty of discriminating good and bad. God propagated His constitution, which contains clearly the subjects of good and bad. The prophets propagated this constitution on this earth. Now if God is deriving entertainment on observing the creation, how can you call Him as sadist? He is not responsible for your desires and selection of good and bad for which you have the full freedom.

He is not responsible even for a trace of your desire and even for a trace of your subsequent action. The constitution gives only information and does not encourage you in anyway. A hotel is exhibiting a board listing the various items available for the food. The board is only for your information. According to your taste, capacity of digestion and problems of health, you have to select the suitable item of food. You cannot blame the hotel saying that the hotel is responsible for your indigestion, since it exhibited a particular item by which you are attracted! A person is standing in the balcony of his residence and is observing the traffic to get entertainment. Suppose an accident took place on the road, you cannot blame the observer to be responsible for the accident. You are well aware of the traffic rules and your over look of the rules is responsible for the accident.

The observation and entertainment of any spectator is not at all connected with the accident. The divine constitution consists of two parts. The first part is the Pravrutti, which is the social behavior to live in this world with peace and harmony. This Pravrutti is based on heaven, earth and hell, which are plus, zero and minus signs respectively. If you do social service helping the poor people, you will get heaven, which is a temporary pleasure proportional to the extent of your sacrifice in the social service. For this, you will receive the result on the earth also either partially or totally. If the result is not seen on the earth, you will receive the total result in the heaven after death. However, the result is not permanent (Kshenepunye…Gita) because your social service is not blended with divine mission.

If you do the service to your self and your family only, you will be living on this earth with happiness and peace provided you are not harming others with corruption and torture. For this also, the result is temporary because the result is confined to this temporary human life only. Anyway, in both the cases the result is temporary only. If you are confined to your self and your family only, there is no result after death and you will not enter the heaven for serving your family and your self. You will enter the heaven partially or totally for serving the weaker sections in the society but the stay in heaven is temporary. In doing social service, you may confine to your village, District, State, Country, Religion and Earth but you should not harm any living being in this service.

You must avoid corruption and torture of any living being on this earth in doing the service. If you are indulged in corruption and torture of any living being, the court here will punish you. If you escape the punishment here, God will punish you here partially and in the hell after the death partially or totally. The punishment of God is based on the transformation of the soul and not the revenge as observed in the terrorism. Terrorism wants revenge without aiming at the transformation of the soul. It does not understand the whole divine system and denies even God due to emotion. Emotion kills the analysis and patience will give happiness and permanent solution. Do not take law and order in to your hands. If the court or Government fails in implementing the justice, God will punish even the court and Government because human beings only constitute the court and Government, which can err. All this comes under Pravrutti. If you avoid the hell after death and punishments here by limiting your self to the service of your family and the society, God is pleased with you.