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Greetings! I am a new member of this forum. I joined after reading an article that was written in the ULC on this topic - A New Message from God. I am a student of this Revelation and have been for almost four years. I personally know the Messenger, Marshall Vian Summers and can say that this is all quite real and authentic.

God is speaking to the world as a whole this time. God is giving us wisdom and direction to deal with things we as a race cannot see and cannot know without this Revelation. This Revelation is vast, over 9160 pages to date and has taken over 25 years for the Messenger to receive.

I invite any questions or discussion from members here regarding this.

Blessings, Robert
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The article on the ULC blog http://blog.themonastery.org/2011/09/new-m...social-justice/ was well written and spoke about the New Message from God emphasis on social justice and self-determination for all people. It also speaks to a deeper knowing within each of us that's called Knowledge. It reminds me of the teachings of Jesus where he stated that the Kingdom of Heaven is within.

It seems to be a timely message. There are some really radical teachings on the website to read and/or listen to at newmessage.org. I'm interested to see what other people think about The New Message.


Blessings!



QUOTE (Robert2011 @ Sep 14 2011, 05:52 PM) *
Greetings! I am a new member of this forum. I joined after reading an article that was written in the ULC on this topic - A New Message from God. I am a student of this Revelation and have been for almost four years. I personally know the Messenger, Marshall Vian Summers and can say that this is all quite real and authentic.

God is speaking to the world as a whole this time. God is giving us wisdom and direction to deal with things we as a race cannot see and cannot know without this Revelation. This Revelation is vast, over 9160 pages to date and has taken over 25 years for the Messenger to receive.

I invite any questions or discussion from members here regarding this.

Blessings, Robert
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QUOTE (Robert2011 @ Sep 14 2011, 05:52 PM) *
Greetings! I am a new member of this forum. I joined after reading an article that was written in the ULC on this topic - A New Message from God. I am a student of this Revelation and have been for almost four years. I personally know the Messenger, Marshall Vian Summers and can say that this is all quite real and authentic.

God is speaking to the world as a whole this time. God is giving us wisdom and direction to deal with things we as a race cannot see and cannot know without this Revelation. This Revelation is vast, over 9160 pages to date and has taken over 25 years for the Messenger to receive.

I invite any questions or discussion from members here regarding this.

Blessings, Robert


Do you consider yourself a "New Messenger?" If so, do you consider yourself a Christian? If Christian, how do you reconcile the "New Message/Revelation" with the teachings of the Bible?

Blessings and Peace,

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QUOTE (raweya @ Sep 22 2011, 06:14 PM) *
The article on the ULC blog http://blog.themonastery.org/2011/09/new-m...social-justice/ was well written and spoke about the New Message from God emphasis on social justice and self-determination for all people. It also speaks to a deeper knowing within each of us that's called Knowledge. It reminds me of the teachings of Jesus where he stated that the Kingdom of Heaven is within.

It seems to be a timely message. There are some really radical teachings on the website to read and/or listen to at newmessage.org. I'm interested to see what other people think about The New Message.


Blessings!

Thanks Raweya for your comments. You have obviously read some of the Revelation and that is a good start. You said some of it seems radical. I might use the words "sobering truths" in that I would not expect a New Message from God to do anything but challenge us and lift us higher. What a great love the Creator has for creation to give us this vast Revelation!

Blessings
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QUOTE (Brother Michael @ Sep 22 2011, 07:02 PM) *
Do you consider yourself a "New Messenger?" If so, do you consider yourself a Christian? If Christian, how do you reconcile the "New Message/Revelation" with the teachings of the Bible?

Blessings and Peace,

Brother Michael


Hello Brother Michael, thank you for your post. Let me answer your questions. I do not consider myself a "New Messenger". I consider myself a student of this Revelation, a follower of it, and a witness to it and to its Messenger (Marshall Vian Summers). In that role of witness I feel strongly that I need to share the awareness of this Revelation with all who can hear.

I can't say I'm really any specific faith tradition. There is no other name for this Revelation except the New Message from God, so that is my faith tradition I guess. Actually before finding this New Message from God, I was not really interested in religion or even spirituality. I practiced no rites, rituals or attended any church. So my understanding or familiarity with the Bible or any other religious texts was very minimal. I have learned since, from others who are more inclined in a religious way, that the essence of the New Message Teachings are really seen in all the existing faith traditions of the world today. And that the Teachings of Jesus - compassion, tolerance, love, forgiveness, cooperation are very much emphasized in the New Message Revelations.

It sounds like you are familiar with the Bible. I would ask you, as someone who knows that text, to compare its essential, core Teachings with the New Message Teachings and say how you feel they relate. I would learn much from this discussion and might possibly give you something that you would benefit from too.

Blessings, Robert
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Brother Michael,

Let me begin our discussion by including this link to a New Message Teaching called "The Great Love". It shouldn't take very long to read it.

How does that concept and explanation of love compare to your understanding of God's Love from the Bible?

http://newmessage.org/ee/index.php/special.../the-great-love

Blessings, Robert
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QUOTE (Robert2011 @ Sep 25 2011, 11:51 AM) *
Brother Michael,

Let me begin our discussion by including this link to a New Message Teaching called "The Great Love". It shouldn't take very long to read it.

How does that concept and explanation of love compare to your understanding of God's Love from the Bible?

http://newmessage.org/ee/index.php/special.../the-great-love

Blessings, Robert

I asked if you were a Christian to tell me how the "New Message related to the Bible. I am not a Christian and will not discuss my opinions of the Bible because they would be meaningless in this forum and may upset the Christian members here. If you are not a Christian, then I would not be interested in your opinion of the Bible, either. I am, however, interested in what you believe to be your truth.

Blessings and Peace,

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QUOTE (Brother Michael @ Sep 25 2011, 07:25 PM) *
I asked if you were a Christian to tell me how the "New Message related to the Bible. I am not a Christian and will not discuss my opinions of the Bible because they would be meaningless in this forum and may upset the Christian members here. If you are not a Christian, then I would not be interested in your opinion of the Bible, either. I am, however, interested in what you believe to be your truth.

Blessings and Peace,

Brother Michael


My mistake Brother Michael. I had assumed you were a Christian from your post.

My faith and growing experience is in The New Message from God. This is a Revelation that encompasses a vast array of human aspects and truths. As I have said earlier, it reveals things we could not see or know from our vantage point or current understanding. I have found, through speaking with others about the New Message that it speaks for itself. I must find the Teaching or passage that answers the question or inquiry. So to help answer your question, which is actually quite deep, I suggest you read the two links I'm sharing. This will give you a beginning awareness of what "my truth is".

http://www.newmessage.org/ee/index.php/spe...he-proclamation

http://newmessage.org/ee/index.php/special...ks-to-the-world

Blessings, Robert
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Dear Robert, I am glad that you have found a Voice that speaks to you, and your Spirit. Whatever opens this channel and expands our view is worthy.
The writings from New Message offer this, especially to you.
Remember still, your own internal guide; and focus on the Message.
God's Love, Baehron
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QUOTE (baehron @ Sep 26 2011, 10:58 AM) *
Dear Robert, I am glad that you have found a Voice that speaks to you, and your Spirit. Whatever opens this channel and expands our view is worthy.
The writings from New Message offer this, especially to you.
Remember still, your own internal guide; and focus on the Message.
God's Love, Baehron


Thank you for for kind and wise words Baehron.

Blessings, Robert
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QUOTE (Robert2011 @ Sep 14 2011, 06:52 PM) *
Greetings! I am a new member of this forum. I joined after reading an article that was written in the ULC on this topic - A New Message from God. I am a student of this Revelation and have been for almost four years. I personally know the Messenger, Marshall Vian Summers and can say that this is all quite real and authentic.

God is speaking to the world as a whole this time. God is giving us wisdom and direction to deal with things we as a race cannot see and cannot know without this Revelation. This Revelation is vast, over 9160 pages to date and has taken over 25 years for the Messenger to receive.

I invite any questions or discussion from members here regarding this.

Blessings, Robert


Hello and welcome to the forum.

Does this new message from God speaking to the world as a whole extend to our environment and to the preservation of species beyond our own? Are you aware of any references in this Revelation to a wrath of God and a final judgment? Are you aware of any long established religious sects that are adopting this Revelation into their doctrine? Does this new Revelation speak of the universe beyond our earth? Does this new Revelation refer to any other intelligent life beyond our own or in some ethereal plane? What is the most important and "new" message that you have found in the Revelation?
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QUOTE (Kory @ Sep 26 2011, 12:27 PM) *
Hello and welcome to the forum.

Does this new message from God speaking to the world as a whole extend to our environment and to the preservation of species beyond our own? Are you aware of any references in this Revelation to a wrath of God and a final judgment? Are you aware of any long established religious sects that are adopting this Revelation into their doctrine? Does this new Revelation speak of the universe beyond our earth? Does this new Revelation refer to any other intelligent life beyond our own or in some ethereal plane? What is the most important and "new" message that you have found in the Revelation?


Hello Kory, and thank you for your questions. I will answer them in order and will try to be succinct.

Yes, a key element in The New Message is the need to cooperate as a people and rebuild the life sustaining abilities of our natural environment, which includes everything. It states in many Teachings the importance of this world as our natural inheritance, as a resouce for us and our future generations. I have linked to a Teaching on this topic -

http://newmessage.org/ee/index.php/special...the-environment

The question of a wrath of God and final judgement is spoken of in The New Message. It clarifies that God has given us this incredible physical realm as our own, to do with what we want. The condition of it is a reflection of our lack of connection to God. God has also given us a part of God within each one of us, to guide, protect and enable us to fulfill God's work here in the physical (Knowledge or Holy Spirit). So, it is stated that God will not, out of love for Creation, interfere here. We can be instruments of chaos and destruction or instruments of God's Will. Our choice. I do not know if other sects have taken this Message into their faiths yet, sorry. I have linked to one Teaching on What is God. There are others with more detail and depth.

http://www.newmessage.org/chapters/greater...r1.php?bg=black


Yes, The New Message speaks extensively on the universe, other intelligent life, and our relationship to that. In fact, one of the primary reasons for this New Revelation is our world's emergence into the Greater Community of Worlds (our contact and beginning interaction with other intelligent life). We are like children here, we know nothing of the universe around us, and we are in the beginning of an alien intervention into our world. This will be the first of many to come in the years ahead. How do we prepare, how do we even become aware without help. There are many Teachings on this, here is one:

http://newmessage.org/ee/index.php/special...in-the-universe

Lastly, what do I feel is the most "new" part of this New Message? I would say, for me, it is that I have a relationship with God and that relationship is already within me, waiting to be reclaimed. Also a big "new" for me was becoming aware of the destiny of this world and us, of the universe, and what that looks like in a practical sense. Here is a link to the teaching Destiny:

http://newmessage.org/ee/index.php/special-teachings/destiny

I hope I've answered your questions for now. I will be honored to share my experience and learning of The New Message with you.

Blessings, Robert
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Thank you all who had inquiry here and those that have read this post.

I must ask, given the allegation here of a New Message from God and a Messenger in the world at this time, why more here aren't questioning this? Is it dismissed so easily? Are you so sure of what this is, that you have no interest in investigating the greatest claim in centuries?

Consider, for a moment, what if this is real...what would that mean for you and your responsibility to this?

A quote from a New Message Teaching titled "Religion as Mystery" : "Why do people not want to experience God? Why is there that profound resistance? It is because they are afraid to challenge their idea of themselves. Maybe they are not who they think they are. Can they live with that? God gives something much better, but people are afraid to give up what they have created for themselves. I'm not talking about giving up your car and living like a monk. That's ridiculous! What people are afraid of giving up is their ideas about themselves. That is true renunciation! True renunciation is not giving up worldly things. It is giving up ideas. They are the bars on your prison."

Blessings and clarity,

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For those who want to know "what" God the New Message is speaking about, I include this Teaching - "There is a New God"
NOTE: The editor/censor on this site changed "H*e*l*l" to "heck" and it won't allow me to change it back. You will see this several times in this Teaching.


" There is a New Revelation about God, a Revelation that takes God out of the ancient history of humanity, out of the conflicts, the fantasies and the misunderstanding of humanity. This Revelation takes God into the larger panorama of life in the Universe called the Greater Community. You need this new understanding of God now because the God of the ancients was a small God, a God of your world and of your time, a God of your cultures, a God of your peoples in ancient times. But humanity has outgrown this God, this human God, this angry God, this vengeful God, this God that seems to be a projection of your personality and tendencies. It is not that the ancients were wrong; it is just that their comprehension was limited. It is not that they created a God in their own likeness; it is just that they could not comprehend a God that was beyond their likeness.

The New Revelation presents God within a greater context, within the context of intelligent life in the Universe. This is not a human context for it is not a human Universe that you are facing. It is not a God that is preoccupied with this one world alone. It is not a God that judges the way that you would judge or condemns the way that you would condemn. It is not a God that needs praise and worship, that must have obedience and adulation. That is the old God of the tribe. That is the old God that favors one nation over another, one people over another. That is an old idea of God.

But God has never been like this, you see. For the God that people have looked to and have worshipped, the God that people have apprehended and misapprehended has always been the God of the Greater Community containing vast expanses of space, the different dimensions of reality and countless races of beings so different from the human family. This is the one God of the Universe, not a God of one world, one people or one tribe. This is not a God that thinks, acts or behaves the way that human beings think, act and behave. This God is not limited to one Revelation for humanity for there have been successive Revelations for humanity. Now there is a New Revelation for humanity to prepare the human family for the great change that is coming to the world and to prepare humanity for its future destiny and encounter with the Greater Community of intelligent life in the Universe.




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It will not be possible for you to think of God in the old ways if you want to understand God's New Revelation for the world. You will not be able to understand the reality and the significance of intelligent life in the Universe if you think of God in the old ways. For the old God was exclusive to humanity, a God of one nation, a God of one people, a God of one race, a God of one world alone. That is why the old God was too limited and too much discerned in the likeness of humanity alone for people to comprehend God's real nature and purpose, even here in this world.

The old God took people to war. The old God seemed to have no concern for the welfare
of people and nations that God did not favor. The old God was used by kings, monarchs and nations to justify and to amplify their nation's grievances and ambitions. The old God seemed to delight in punishing humanity for the inevitable errors that humanity would make in its separated state, living in this world. And so the whole notion of Heaven and heck is built around the belief and the assumptions about the old God.

The new God, the God of the Greater Community, the God of a greater reality than your own requires a redefinition of all of these things. For God's reality is so very different from how God has been considered and believed in, in the past. God does not favor one nation over another. God does not lead peoples to war. God does not will one nation's victory over another nation or one people's conquest of another people. God does not will for natural disasters, plagues, illness or catastrophes. You can blame these things on the old God, but not on the new God. For God has set into motion the forces of nature, evolution and geologic change at the beginning of time, and that is all running itself now. God is intelligent. God does not have to run every little thing. God does not have to move the blood through your veins or operate your millions of cells. God does not have to run the weather of the world. God does not have to run the nations of the world or the economies of the world. It is all set in motion. It was set in motion at the beginning of time. But God watches over the world and all worlds, calling to the separated to return, calling through the avenues of religion, calling through the avenues of conscience, calling through the avenues of true love and recognition. The God of the Universe does not care what your religious beliefs are so long as they can assist you in bringing you to the deeper Knowledge that God has placed within you. A deeper intelligence that God has placed within you to guide you, to protect you and to lead you to a greater service and contribution in the world. The old God was dominated by religious institutions. If you did not support those institutions and believe in their ideology, it was considered you would be sent to heck, that you were affronting God. But God does not care about these things. The beliefs and fascinations, obsessions and fantasies of humanity are not what moves God. It is the deeper movement of the heart and the conscience. It is the acts of selfless giving. It is the acts of forgiveness and the



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desire to contribute beyond one's own personal needs and preferences. It is the recognition of one to another. It is an enemy becoming a friend. It is the healing of a natural world that has been despoiled. These are the things that move the Lord of the Universe. If you are to understand humanity's destiny and future within a Greater Community of life in the Universe, if you are to understand how to prepare for the Great Waves of change that are coming to the world, then you must have a new experience and understanding of the Divine. If you cling to the old ideas and the old definitions, you will not understand what humanity is facing and how to prepare. You will think it is the end of time. You will think it is the great punishment. You will think it is the final battle. All these kinds of things that seem to indicate a grand finale to the human experience.

Humanity is but leaving one stage of its development and entering another. It is a great transition from a world of tribal societies and warring factions to a more united and powerful humanity. A humanity that can live, function and remain free within a Greater Community of life, a humanity that can face Intervention from other races in the Universe and that can establish
its own rules of engagement here, a united humanity that can learn to live within the boundaries and limited resources of this world without driving itself into oblivion and decline. A united humanity will need a new experience and understanding of the Divine if it is to make this great transition and to avoid the ever-growing temptation towards conflict, competition and war. In facing a world of declining resources, a world of environmental destruction, a world of violent weather and growing economic instability, you will need to have a greater experience of the Divine and particularly of the power of Knowledge within yourself. For it is at this deeper level beneath the surface of your intellect that God will touch you and move you by the very force of attraction of the Divine. You cannot comprehend God with your intellect. You cannot reduce God down into a rational principle. You must see that God is not operating all the functions of the world, for these were set in motion at the beginning of time. There is no conflict here between creation and evolution. And there is really no conflict between religion and science. They are all born out of the same reality, the same need to comprehend life, the same need to correct human error and to establish a safe and secure future for the human family. Religion and science are corrupted by the same forces. The desire for individual power, the domination of one group over another and institutions fighting for supremacy. They both tend to be orthodox in their own right and both tend to be limited and self-defensive.

Instead of trying to connect the past with the present and the future, it is best to let the past go and to see that humanity's understanding of the Divine is an evolutionary process in and
of itself. If you try to connect the future with the past, you will either deny the future, or you will


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have to change your understanding of the past. Ancient prophecies will not be fulfilled. The Messiah will not return to the world. It is now the time for Knowledge to emerge. It is the era of human cooperation and human responsibility. No one great leader is going to come and lead humanity into a glorious future. No one individual is going to come and settle all the scores and take revenge upon the wicked. That is the old idea of God. It is no longer relevant, and it was never really true to begin with. It is the desire of people for a final resolution to the conundrum of life, to the questions of life and to the problem of life. You were sent into the world to make a contribution here, a specific contribution concerning certain people in certain situations. Do not think that you understand these yet. Do not yet assume that you are fully involved in these yet. Do not think that by believing in a religious ideology that you are going to be saved, for if you do not do what you came here to do, if you do not engage with those who you are meant to engage with and to contribute your gifts, belief alone will not bridge the gap and end the separation between you and God. To reunite with God you have to become more like what God really created in you.

God has placed Knowledge within you to guide you and to redeem you. Beliefs are secondary and often stand in the way of this redemption. Thinking that your religion is the one true religion will stand in the way of your redemption. Condemning other nations, peoples and
religions will prevent you from receiving this redemption. Being self-righteous and the defender of your faith will blind you, and you will turn your back to God. You must have the courage and the faith in the Divine to think of God anew, to realize your responsibilities here and to recognize that you were sent into the world to be a contributor, not a judge or a critic. Here you must realize that God has initiated all the worlds' religions, and they have all been changed by people, even radically changed. So to correct the errors of the past, to renew the true faith and to bring forth the great truth of the ancient religions in their pure form, God has sent a New Revelation into the world, not to replace the religions of the world, but to clarify them, to give them new strength and power and a greater unity with one another. It is not just a correction, however; it is a preparation for a future that will be unlike the past. You are facing a nonhuman Universe. You are facing environmental destruction and ever growing instability and insecurity in the world. You are facing a world of declining resources, a world where an ever-growing population will have to drink from a slowly shrinking well. You may pray to God to save you, but God has sent you here to save the world, to play your small but essential part in this.

It is not the end of time. It is a great transition. It is not the end of the world. It is a great reckoning and a new time of Revelation. Many things will come to an end. Many ways of life will have to be altered. Human understanding will have to change. Human responsibility will


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have to grow. Human compassion will have to grow. Human forgiveness will have to grow. It will seem like the end of time, like the whole world is coming down on you. A time of cataclysmic change and upheaval. But this is really a time for humanity to grow up, to become wise and to prepare for its future. Only God knows what is coming over the horizon, and only God can prepare you for this completely. You may recognize certain solutions to aspects of the world's problems, but you cannot prepare yourself for the Great Waves of change or for your encounter with intelligent life in the Universe. God has sent a New Revelation into the world to prepare humanity for its future, to warn humanity of the great dangers within the world and beyond the world and to bless humanity with the power and the presence of Knowledge that has been placed as a deeper strength within each person, so that humanity will choose peace over war, cooperation over division, resolution over the loss of confidence, freedom over capitulation, responsibility over weakness. This is not the providence of a few inspired individuals or a few small groups working to support the human family. It will have to be something that will have to reach far and wide. Not everyone will have to receive and believe in the New Message from God, but it must reach enough people to have its impact here, to provide a new awareness and experience of the Divine in your life and the deeper movement of your life.

Here you will have to let go of your notions of Heaven and heck and your belief in a final
judgment day and all of these things, for they will not fit with the greater reality that you are entering. If you follow Knowledge, you will become closer to God. If you deny Knowledge and follow your fears and ambitions, you will become further away from God. If you contribute your gifts in the world, you will not need to come here again. You will have completed this cycle of your evolution and development. Yet God is not going to just bring you back to Heaven. God is going to put you to work in the Universe, in the reality of the separated. You have many present tasks and many future tasks. You do not run away from this into Heaven, for there is much work to do, you see. God does not waste this opportunity. Your redemption must be a source of inspiration for others and must continue to have a resonating and positive effect on life in the Universe. No one will be sent to heck, but people are already living in heck, being separated from God. The heck of their own fearful imagination, the heck of their self-hatred and hatred of others, the heck of their circumstances, the heck of their isolation. Yes, there are worse Hells than this, but God will not send you there. But if you are left out of God's grace and power, God's providence and God's guidance, then your heck will deepen and can seem to be endless. But it is not endless, for God has placed Knowledge within you and eventually you will come to realize that you must follow this Knowledge, you must accept this Knowledge and that only Knowledge can take you from the heck of your separation and your isolation and from your own grievances and self-denial.





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In the end, God will win everyone back, even the most wicked. They will just have to work longer to redeem themselves. They will have to give more to counteract their harmful impacts upon others. Here kings will have to be water carriers and till the fields. Here tyrants will have to sweep the streets.

People are impatient. They want a judgment day. They want everything to be finished. They do not want to have to live with great questions, great unresolved questions. They want
God to punish others that they themselves cannot or will not punish. They think they know what justice is. And that is why the old God is filled with revenge, anger and repudiation that people are forced to believe in with the threat of death and heck.

That is a primitive way of looking at life. It is an ignorant way of looking at life. It does
not account for the reality of the Divine or the reality of your Divine nature and destiny. God will call everyone back eventually, but eventually could be a long time from now. In the interim, you suffer, you live in darkness and confusion. You do not realize your power, your value or the greater strength of Knowledge within you that is waiting to be discovered and is trying to save you even at this moment.

If humanity is to escape great collapse in the future, if you are to escape domination by
other races in the Universe, you must now listen and gain a new and greater understanding of the Divine presence and power in your life, of the real nature of human destiny and what will be required of peoples, groups and nations to choose wisely in the face of a changing world. Here your old beliefs are clarified and purified. Here you do not abandon the great traditions; instead you see their connection with one another and the great value and wisdom that is at the very heart of their teaching. But your cosmology will change because you are entering the Greater Community. Your religion now cannot be a religion of one world alone or for one people alone. It will have to be a Greater Community religion. God of the Universe, a spirituality of the Universe, that which unites you and connects you with one another despite your differing views and interpretations.

Fight against this, and you fight against God's will and purpose for humanity. Repudiate
this, and you repudiate your future, your evolution and the primary education you must receive at this time. Lash out against God's New Revelation, and you will further distance yourself from the power and presence of God in your life. They are all connected, these Revelations, but you must see their pure thread and content to understand this.

So much of what people believe in is purely a human creation. The stories, the miracles,
the traditions of stories and miracles, human creation. That God created the world in a few days is human creation, the attempt by a limited understanding to comprehend the reality and the mystery of Creation. It is like asking a five-year-old to talk about the evolution of the world.

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They can only do it in such simple language, simple stories and a simple time frame. They can not yet comprehend the expanse, the immensity and complexity of what they are looking at. So as you expand your awareness and your understanding, you gain a greater comprehension of the Divine and the miracle of Creation and the even greater miracle of redemption. Here the new God is the old God, unveiled and clarified, not clothed in ancient understandings or ancient mythologies. For there is only one God, and that is God of all the Universes, God of all the races. God has a plan of redemption for each one, and each one is reclaimed through Knowledge. For God has put Knowledge in each one. Most races in the Universe are far less free than humanity is at this time. Many races are suffering under subjugation by other races or have become entirely secular and technological in their emphasis. Yet there is still a plan of redemption for them all. But can you say what this is? Of course not. Can you define God's will and plan for the Universe? Of course not. Can you even comprehend a Greater Community of intelligent life? A billion, billion, billion races and many more beyond this?

Here instead of trying to make life fit into your ideology, to make everything squeeze into
your limited understanding, you begin to follow the power and the presence of Knowledge within you and that reveals God's presence and plan for your life. You realize that beyond the intellect there is a greater dimension to your existence and that the intellect must serve this. Here you cease to proclaim that you know God's Will and you become humble and you allow God's Will for you and for this time to be revealed. And if your intention is pure, you will follow something without coming to great conclusions, without proclaiming yourself, without formulating a new ideology that is really a human creation.

Knowledge knows where you are going. Knowledge knows what is coming over the
horizon. Knowledge is trying to protect and prepare you even at this moment, but you are not yet aware of the power and presence of Knowledge within yourself sufficiently to hear its messages, heed its warnings and receive its greatness. That is why God's New Revelation provides the steps to Knowledge so that you can gain access to this deeper reality and this deeper current of your life. Humanity cannot save itself now. It cannot come up with one solution for the Great Waves of change. It does not know how to prepare itself for a Universe of intelligent life, a competitive environment on a scale you cannot even imagine. That is why there is a New Message from God in the world: to provide the Revelation, to provide the warning, to provide the encouragement and to provide the preparation. Here you must become a person who can function in the Greater Community, a person who can think in terms of the whole world, a person who is not limited and constrained by a previous understanding that is far too limited and insufficient to enable you to perceive your changing circumstances and the great challenges that are coming.



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Here the New Revelation opens doors, expands your awareness and perception and liberates you from old ideas that would never allow you to see the present and the future, to free you from condemnation and to bring back to you the mystery and the power of your life and greater purpose in the world. God has a Greater Plan for the human family, but this plan can only be followed individually through Knowledge, through cooperation and recognition between peoples, through environmental responsibility, through accountability to the human family, through humility and simplicity, without arrogance, without condemnation and without self-righteousness, for these are all a human invention. And they are not limited to humanity alone, such tendencies exist throughout the Universe. It is the result of separation, the great separation from God that set in motion the creation and the expansion of the physical Universe. The physical Universe is but a small part of God's Creation. But this remains for you to learn, and you have a greater journey and a destiny to take here. But you have to allow your mind to expand, your eyes to open, your ears to hear if you are to gain this greater preparation and understanding.

The old religions, if they are held in contempt of one another, have really become obsolete and will become increasingly so in the future. Now you must see Jesus within the
Greater Community and Mohammad and the Buddha and all the great saints and emissaries in a larger context, in a greater series of Revelations, each bringing humanity closer to world civilization and to greater cooperation and a deeper experience of the conscience that God has placed within you. In this sense, all religions are ecumenical. They are all meant to support one another instead of compete and denounce one another. God's will is for humanity to unite, to preserve the world and to prepare for its future in the Greater Community. A future where humanity's freedom will be challenged repeatedly, a future where humanity will be seduced by the offers of alien technology, a future with many hazards, but a future where humanity must maintain human freedom and sovereignty within this world.

Loose this and you loose everything, all the accomplishments of humanity. Only God's
New Revelation can show you these things, for they were not part of God's previous Revelations, for humanity did not need to know of the Greater Community, and humanity was not facing a world in decline in previous eras. But now you are facing these things and you must prepare and that is why an emissary was sent into the world bringing a New Message from God. He is not a savior. He is not magnificent. He is simple and humble, and he is the Messenger.


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So once again humanity is challenged with a New Revelation. Can it receive this, can it comprehend this, can it accept this or will it fight and struggle and denounce and continue its violent and ignorant ways? Will the human intellect still try to replace the power of Knowledge within the individual? Will religion grow and expand or will it contract and become self-defensive? And will people be able to change, to have a real change of heart, to prepare them for the future, that will assure them a greater life and a greater security in the world? These are questions that only people can answer, but the Revelation is upon you because the great needs are upon you, and God has more to say to the human family and has provided a New Revelation and a new way forward. It has come from the new God. New only to your understanding, for there is only one God and that God is neither new nor old but has always been. It is humanity's understanding that must evolve now, and a New Revelation has been given to make this possible. The Revelation was given in the face of great necessity, for humanity is not recognizing the Great Waves of change and is not responding to the presence of forces in the Greater Community, who are in the world to take advantage of a weak and divided humanity. Humanity is not responding and can not prepare itself in time and that is why the Revelation has been given. It is also being given to uplift humanity's understanding of its spiritual nature and reality to the level of Knowledge, where there are no conflicts and contentiousness between peoples. For Knowledge cannot be in opposition to itself, and your greater spiritual reality and identity was created in harmony with all others. It is only the arrogance of human presumption and the overriding presence of fear and competition that drives people away from their true nature and purpose here. But be of good cheer, for a Great Message has been sent into the world from the Creator of all life in the Universe. Have greater confidence that the power and presence of Knowledge is within you, and as you learn to take the steps to Knowledge, you will find its power, grace and guidance for yourself and for others. And you will see that you truly were created by God and sent into the world for a greater purpose and that you have a greater destiny beyond this world and a greater future within and beyond the boundaries of time."




Blessings, Robert
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QUOTE (Robert2011 @ Sep 30 2011, 10:16 AM) *
Thank you all who had inquiry here and those that have read this post.

I must ask, given the allegation here of a New Message from God and a Messenger in the world at this time, why more here aren't questioning this? Is it dismissed so easily? Are you so sure of what this is, that you have no interest in investigating the greatest claim in centuries?

Consider, for a moment, what if this is real...what would that mean for you and your responsibility to this?

A quote from a New Message Teaching titled "Religion as Mystery" : "Why do people not want to experience God? Why is there that profound resistance? It is because they are afraid to challenge their idea of themselves. Maybe they are not who they think they are. Can they live with that? God gives something much better, but people are afraid to give up what they have created for themselves. I'm not talking about giving up your car and living like a monk. That's ridiculous! What people are afraid of giving up is their ideas about themselves. That is true renunciation! True renunciation is not giving up worldly things. It is giving up ideas. They are the bars on your prison."

Blessings and clarity,

Robert


Dear Robert,

I can’t speak for anyone else, but, if you have read any of my posts, I am sure you realize that I am more than capable of speaking for myself! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
So, according to my own position, and to answer your question, I don’t necessarily dismiss the claims contained in your thread, as I have never read one in their entirety, save this particular one. Don’t feel bad though, there are a few threads that contain the thoughts of others, or advocate a particular philosophy or book, and I don’t read those either, for the same reasons I will elaborate on now.
If you speak to me, I will speak to you. If you preach to me, I will ignore you, and anything you have to say. If you try to force feed me, secondhand thoughts, I will resist even more. That is why this post had caught my attention. You were speaking to us, rather than at us, and for that little extra effort, I am now willing to interact with you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
There are many reasons why I will not indulge “new messages” from God. One is, most of these new discoveries are often just reworded, or added twists to what we have already been given. (How is it, that the Alpha and Omega, I am, and Creator of all, never has anything actually new to tell these author/messengers)? Another reason, is the God I commune with, supplies me with all the guidance and comfort I need, and so, I have no reason to entertain what has been given to another. A final thought off the top of my head, is that too much indulgence in such findings, produces confusion in me. How am I to be truly sure what I have been given is by God, if I have residue of another’s thought floating, and lurking about in my subconscious mind? It’s tough enough to discipline the conscious mind, let alone the subconscious. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
To prove my point, the last paragraph of your most recent addition to this thread, contains the same that I already believed, and I never even heard of your book. I wouldn’t have anything to compare, if I had read it, as I would be confused as to what was my own belief before reading it. Now how was I able to know this same message, if I didn’t read your book? Is it possible God speaks to anyone who is willing to speak to Him? Point is, whatever works for you. If this book you speak of, provides you with enlightenment and joy, then I am happy for you. But try not to be too disappointed when others do not share your enthusiasm for it. It may not be that they dismiss or are afraid of it, but rather, prefer to go to the original source instead. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Thanks for talking to me, and I hope this helped to calm some of your concerns. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

God’s blessings,

Rev. Campbell.





QUOTE (Robert2011 @ Sep 30 2011, 11:39 AM) *
But be of good cheer, for a Great Message has been sent into the world from the Creator of all life in the Universe. Have greater confidence that the power and presence of Knowledge is within you, and as you learn to take the steps to Knowledge, you will find its power, grace and [/size][/font]guidance for yourself and for others. And you will see that you truly were created by God and sent into the world for a greater purpose and that you have a greater destiny beyond this world and a greater future within and beyond the boundaries of time."




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QUOTE (pathmender @ Sep 30 2011, 12:34 PM) *
Dear Robert,

I can’t speak for anyone else, but, if you have read any of my posts, I am sure you realize that I am more than capable of speaking for myself! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
So, according to my own position, and to answer your question, I don’t necessarily dismiss the claims contained in your thread, as I have never read one in their entirety, save this particular one. Don’t feel bad though, there are a few threads that contain the thoughts of others, or advocate a particular philosophy or book, and I don’t read those either, for the same reasons I will elaborate on now.
If you speak to me, I will speak to you. If you preach to me, I will ignore you, and anything you have to say. If you try to force feed me, secondhand thoughts, I will resist even more. That is why this post had caught my attention. You were speaking to us, rather than at us, and for that little extra effort, I am now willing to interact with you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
There are many reasons why I will not indulge “new messages” from God. One is, most of these new discoveries are often just reworded, or added twists to what we have already been given. (How is it, that the Alpha and Omega, I am, and Creator of all, never has anything actually new to tell these author/messengers)? Another reason, is the God I commune with, supplies me with all the guidance and comfort I need, and so, I have no reason to entertain what has been given to another. A final thought off the top of my head, is that too much indulgence in such findings, produces confusion in me. How am I to be truly sure what I have been given is by God, if I have residue of another’s thought floating, and lurking about in my subconscious mind? It’s tough enough to discipline the conscious mind, let alone the subconscious. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
To prove my point, the last paragraph of your most recent addition to this thread, contains the same that I already believed, and I never even heard of your book. I wouldn’t have anything to compare, if I had read it, as I would be confused as to what was my own belief before reading it. Now how was I able to know this same message, if I didn’t read your book? Is it possible God speaks to anyone who is willing to speak to Him? Point is, whatever works for you. If this book you speak of, provides you with enlightenment and joy, then I am happy for you. But try not to be too disappointed when others do not share your enthusiasm for it. It may not be that they dismiss or are afraid of it, but rather, prefer to go to the original source instead. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Thanks for talking to me, and I hope this helped to calm some of your concerns. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

God’s blessings,

Rev. Campbell.


Thank you for your reply Rev. Campbell. Your words are very real and convey your position (which is the position of many). I in no way want to preach to anyone. My intent is to allow you to become aware of something that is not of my own making and is very important, in my feeling, to everyone. I did post, after your reply, a Teaching from the New Message that speaks of God directly. If you are inclined to read it, I would very much be interested in your thoughts.

To answer the question of how do we know this is real? It is said in the Teachings the only way to know this is real is to experience its truth. I would say that means Knowledge (Holy Spirit) within us must recognize this Revelation and speak to us. If only we allow ourselves to hear that "voice" within us that is speaking.

Many Blessings to you,

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QUOTE (Robert2011 @ Sep 30 2011, 12:55 PM) *
Thank you for your reply Rev. Campbell. Your words are very real and convey your position (which is the position of many). I in no way want to preach to anyone. My intent is to allow you to become aware of something that is not of my own making and is very important, in my feeling, to everyone. I did post, after your reply, a Teaching from the New Message that speaks of God directly. If you are inclined to read it, I would very much be interested in your thoughts.

To answer the question of how do we know this is real? It is said in the Teachings the only way to know this is real is to experience its truth. I would say that means Knowledge (Holy Spirit) within us must recognize this Revelation and speak to us. If only we allow ourselves to hear that "voice" within us that is speaking.

Many Blessings to you,

Robert



See? This is what I was talking about. Most of this is what I already believe. (MOST of it). Now I am confused as whether or not this is actually new, or if I wrote all this somewhere, and some author, pieced it together, and made a mint on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Most of this came to me in my communications with God, as I sought clarification on many matters that just didn’t agree, or sat contrary with my spirit. Sooooo, I really have no idea what to say to you about this now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

God’s blessings,

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QUOTE (pathmender @ Sep 30 2011, 01:14 PM) *
See? This is what I was talking about. Most of this is what I already believe. (MOST of it). Now I am confused as whether or not this is actually new, or if I wrote all this somewhere, and some author, pieced it together, and made a mint on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Most of this came to me in my communications with God, as I sought clarification on many matters that just didn’t agree, or sat contrary with my spirit. Sooooo, I really have no idea what to say to you about this now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

God’s blessings,

Rev. Campbell.


You are truly blessed if you have known much of this prior to now. I can say with assurance that the Messenger, in a state of Revelation, has spoken and recorded all that is contained within The New Message from God. The process is documented and has been witnessed by others. Every word that is spoken by Marshall Vian Summers in this receptive state comes through him and is spoken in a voice that is not his own speaking voice. You can hear it on many of the Teachings available to all. Those recordings are then transcribed and slowly published (due to limited resources to do that).

As to making a mint on it..I must chuckle, as I know how little they make on the published books. Not many are sold and to publish a book, actually, is rather expensive. No one is making money on this. It takes resources, including money to do anything in this world. And to attempt to bring this Message to the world, you can imagine the hurdles that must be overcome.

I would pose a question to you, Rev. Campbell. If you know much of this and feel it came to you from God...what do you feel is your responsibility to it, to yourself and to the world? I ask this with sincerity and respect.

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QUOTE (Robert2011 @ Sep 30 2011, 08:55 PM) *
You are truly blessed if you have known much of this prior to now. I can say with assurance that the Messenger, in a state of Revelation, has spoken and recorded all that is contained within The New Message from God. The process is documented and has been witnessed by others. Every word that is spoken by Marshall Vian Summers in this receptive state comes through him and is spoken in a voice that is not his own speaking voice. You can hear it on many of the Teachings available to all. Those recordings are then transcribed and slowly published (due to limited resources to do that).

As to making a mint on it..I must chuckle, as I know how little they make on the published books. Not many are sold and to publish a book, actually, is rather expensive. No one is making money on this. It takes resources, including money to do anything in this world. And to attempt to bring this Message to the world, you can imagine the hurdles that must be overcome.

I would pose a question to you, Rev. Campbell. If you know much of this and feel it came to you from God...what do you feel is your responsibility to it, to yourself and to the world? I ask this with sincerity and respect.

Blessings, Robert




Hmmm, well, since you say you ask with sincerity, I will have to take you at your word, but I tell you true, there is much in your choice of words that has left me rather skeptical though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
In my opinion, God has many servants, including those who are not aware, or will be aware of being so. I also believe, that we all, are part of “the big picture”. As part of this belief, I also think God does not give to a single person, or even an elite group, but rather anyone and everyone, at any time, as per the ultimate design. And so, what I am unable to accomplish is not a failure, but a simple first step made, by many who are yet to follow. Nothing is lost, nor is there anything without purpose. Ya gotta trust, God has it all worked out anyway, and no one, not you, not I, not Marshall, has any responsibility or will, that can work superior, before the will of God. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
That being said, what is given to me by God, is in fact, intended for me, as that is what God has seen I am in need of at the time, and it is a very, very personal experience. God knows me, as I am one of His own creations, and as such, communicates with me in a way that is tailor made for my understanding. To try and communicate these same teaching with others is futile. Everyone is an individual, and since I did not create them, I have no idea what would move them to the same understanding, individually, or collectively. My responsibility is to honor it. To take what has been given me, and apply it to my daily life. If there are times when these teachings overlap in the interaction with others, so be it. I welcome that opportunity too. Insuring the plank is removed from my eye, does not only benefit me, but it as well, affords me the opportunity to help those who would be in need, and want my help, as my spirit would be fit to do so when called upon. To do otherwise is interfering, and serving my own will.
Every once in a while, I am compelled to write an inspiration. You can view a few of them in the spiritual corner, and they are intended for those who wish to take from them. They are not intended for those who do not wish to do so, as it may not be their time, or, I may not have been the one intended to deliver those messages to them specifically. (I do trust, others will follow). Mine was just to plant the seed, straighten the rows, or even just till the soil in such cases. I don’t need to play a big part, as all parts are required for the yield. And as a result, no part is more or less important than another. I don’t even have to know that I have played a part. All I need to know, is that I have done the best I can, when it is given to me, the opportunity to do so. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Four key words, God, love, forgiveness, and self-reflection. Apply these in all matters of your life, and you have fulfilled any and all responsibility. These are not just words to write or talk about, they are intended to be lived. Then you are not only being responsible, but as well, accountable too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

God’s blessings,

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QUOTE (pathmender @ Sep 30 2011, 10:10 PM) *
Hmmm, well, since you say you ask with sincerity, I will have to take you at your word, but I tell you true, there is much in your choice of words that has left me rather skeptical though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
In my opinion, God has many servants, including those who are not aware, or will be aware of being so. I also believe, that we all, are part of “the big picture”. As part of this belief, I also think God does not give to a single person, or even an elite group, but rather anyone and everyone, at any time, as per the ultimate design. And so, what I am unable to accomplish is not a failure, but a simple first step made, by many who are yet to follow. Nothing is lost, nor is there anything without purpose. Ya gotta trust, God has it all worked out anyway, and no one, not you, not I, not Marshall, has any responsibility or will, that can work superior, before the will of God. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
That being said, what is given to me by God, is in fact, intended for me, as that is what God has seen I am in need of at the time, and it is a very, very personal experience. God knows me, as I am one of His own creations, and as such, communicates with me in a way that is tailor made for my understanding. To try and communicate these same teaching with others is futile. Everyone is an individual, and since I did not create them, I have no idea what would move them to the same understanding, individually, or collectively. My responsibility is to honor it. To take what has been given me, and apply it to my daily life. If there are times when these teachings overlap in the interaction with others, so be it. I welcome that opportunity too. Insuring the plank is removed from my eye, does not only benefit me, but it as well, affords me the opportunity to help those who would be in need, and want my help, as my spirit would be fit to do so when called upon. To do otherwise is interfering, and serving my own will.
Every once in a while, I am compelled to write an inspiration. You can view a few of them in the spiritual corner, and they are intended for those who wish to take from them. They are not intended for those who do not wish to do so, as it may not be their time, or, I may not have been the one intended to deliver those messages to them specifically. (I do trust, others will follow). Mine was just to plant the seed, straighten the rows, or even just till the soil in such cases. I don’t need to play a big part, as all parts are required for the yield. And as a result, no part is more or less important than another. I don’t even have to know that I have played a part. All I need to know, is that I have done the best I can, when it is given to me, the opportunity to do so. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Four key words, God, love, forgiveness, and self-reflection. Apply these in all matters of your life, and you have fulfilled any and all responsibility. These are not just words to write or talk about, they are intended to be lived. Then you are not only being responsible, but as well, accountable too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

God’s blessings,

Rev. Campbell.


Thank you Rev. Campbell for reflecting on my questions and sharing your thoughts. May you continue to hear God's voice within you and see what the world calls for you to do.

Blessings, Robert
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Thank you Rev. Campbell for reflecting on my questions and sharing your thoughts. May you continue to hear God's voice within you and see what the world calls for you to do.

Blessings, Robert



You're welcome dear Brother, and same to you. (However, the emphasis being on “God’s voice” of course). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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A part of my Step for today in "Steps to Knowledge" I'd like to share:

"Step 276
KNOWLEDGE IS MY SALVATION.

KNOWLEDGE IS YOUR SALVATION, for it leads you out of your
hopeless predicament which is born of attempting to live in
fantasy and imagination. It leads you into the brightness and the clarity
of reality. It guides your action and your thinking so that both may be
effective and lead to true self-realization.Thus, God has given you the
greatest possible gift: the means within yourself to correct all error, to
resolve all confusion and conflict and to set your life on a true course
that is aimed at your true destiny. Here you become empowered and
honored and your self-worth is reclaimed. It is your value that must be
reclaimed to you. God does not require that God’s value be reclaimed,
for it has never been lost. But your value to yourself has been lost, and
this can only be reclaimed by following a Greater Plan not of your
own making, but which has been created for your total welfare.

WHEN YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH OF YOUR LIFE has been wasted in
ambivalence and how few results that has produced, then you will
recognize the great need for Knowledge.This will give you the
strength and the conviction to proceed in your preparation with the
greatest possible self-involvement. Once you recognize your true need,
then you will be able to recognize the true remedy that has been
provided."

Blessings, Robert
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An excellent lesson, Brother. Universally offered for all who seek clarity.
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QUOTE (Robert2011 @ Oct 6 2011, 12:37 PM) *
A part of my Step for today in "Steps to Knowledge" I'd like to share:

"Step 276
KNOWLEDGE IS MY SALVATION.

KNOWLEDGE IS YOUR SALVATION, for it leads you out of your
hopeless predicament which is born of attempting to live in
fantasy and imagination. It leads you into the brightness and the clarity
of reality. It guides your action and your thinking so that both may be
effective and lead to true self-realization.Thus, God has given you the
greatest possible gift: the means within yourself to correct all error, to
resolve all confusion and conflict and to set your life on a true course
that is aimed at your true destiny. Here you become empowered and
honored and your self-worth is reclaimed. It is your value that must be
reclaimed to you. God does not require that God’s value be reclaimed,
for it has never been lost. But your value to yourself has been lost, and
this can only be reclaimed by following a Greater Plan not of your
own making, but which has been created for your total welfare.

WHEN YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH OF YOUR LIFE has been wasted in
ambivalence and how few results that has produced, then you will
recognize the great need for Knowledge.This will give you the
strength and the conviction to proceed in your preparation with the
greatest possible self-involvement. Once you recognize your true need,
then you will be able to recognize the true remedy that has been
provided."

Blessings, Robert


As is written; "My people perish from lack of knowledge."

It is the will of God that none perish but all come into the knowledge of truth. For this reason God has established a way to gain this knowledge.

In the love of God,

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QUOTE (baehron @ Oct 6 2011, 10:57 AM) *
An excellent lesson, Brother. Universally offered for all who seek clarity.
Blessings, Baehron


Thank you again, Brother Baehron, for your kind words.

Blessings, Robert
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QUOTE (DW Suiter @ Oct 6 2011, 12:53 PM) *
As is written; "My people perish from lack of knowledge."

It is the will of God that none perish but all come into the knowledge of truth. For this reason God has established a way to gain this knowledge.

In the love of God,

DW Suiter


Thank you for your post. These are wise words also. Where did they come from?

Blessings, Robert
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QUOTE (Robert2011 @ Oct 7 2011, 10:57 PM) *
Thank you for your post. These are wise words also. Where did they come from?

Blessings, Robert


Hello Robert, these came from the old and new testaments. I don't recvall by author, book, or verse but by principle conveyed.

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QUOTE (DW Suiter @ Oct 9 2011, 04:23 PM) *
Hello Robert, these came from the old and new testaments. I don't recvall by author, book, or verse but by principle conveyed.

In the love of God,

DW Suiter


It is comforting and confirming to me that the words written many years ago in God's Revelations to humanity, convey the same essence, truth and meaning as the words spoken and written today in God's New Revelations to humanity.

Thank you, DW Suiter, for sharing your knowledge of these texts with us.

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My daily practice in Steps to Knowledge led me to another Step that struck me deeply. I would like to share it with you.

"Step 288

ENEMIES ARE ONLY FRIENDS
WHO HAVE NOT LEARNED TO JOIN.

THERE ARE NO TRUE ENEMIES IN LIFE, for all war and conflict
are born of confusion.This you must understand. A life
without Knowledge can only be confused and must create its own
inner guidance system, which is merely the ideas and beliefs with
which it identifies itself.Thus, individuals have their own individual
purpose and self-identity.These evaluations clash with those of other
individuals, and thus one to one, group to group, nation to nation and
world to world, war is generated and waged.

IN KNOWLEDGE THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE, for in Knowledge all are
your friends.You recognize each person to be at whatever stage of
development he or she is currently engaged.You may become involved
with some of them, and with some of them you may not. Some of
them may be able to receive your contribution directly, while others
will need to receive it indirectly. But they are all your friends.There is
no opposition in Knowledge, for there is only one Knowledge in the
universe. It expresses itself through each individual. As each individual
becomes more purified as a vehicle for Knowledge, as each individual
becomes a greater recipient of Knowledge and as each individual
follows Knowledge and becomes responsible to Knowledge, then the
opportunity for him or her to be in conflict will diminish and
eventually will disappear.

RECOGNIZE,THEN,THAT ALL WAR AND CONFLICT simply express a
lack of capacity for those involved to join.When individuals join, they
recognize a common need, which becomes their primary need.This
must be born of Knowledge and not idealism if it is to be actualized. It
must be born of Knowledge and not mere philosophy if it is to lead to
true action and true involvement.Thus, you become a peacemaker and
a peacekeeper in the world as you follow as a student of Knowledge.
The stronger Knowledge is within you, the weaker will be your fear
and ambivalence. In this way, war within you will be ended, and your
life will be a demonstration that war is unnecessary.

DEDICATE YOURSELF TODAY TO ENDING WAR within the world by
ending war within yourself so that you may be a peacemaker and a
peacekeeper. Upon the hour remind yourself of today’s lesson and
apply it to the world that you see around you. Apply it to all of the
conflicts in the world of which you are aware.Try to understand its
complete relevancy to these conflicts.This will require that you see
these conflicts from a different point of view in order to realize the full
impact and meaning of today’s idea. It is this point of view that you
must cultivate, for you must learn to see as Knowledge sees, to think as
Knowledge thinks and to act as Knowledge acts. All this you will most
certainly accomplish as you follow Knowledge each day.

IN YOUR DEEPER PRACTICE PERIODS return to stillness and silence
so that you may strengthen your ability to cultivate and prepare
yourself to be an emissary of Knowledge in the world.This is your
responsibility today.This will permeate all of your other activities and
give them value and meaning, for today you are a student of
Knowledge.

PRACTICE 288: Two 30-minute practice periods.
Hourly practice."

Blessings, Robert
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I thought it would be helpful to begin to illuminate Knowledge and Steps to Knowledge by including a page from the introduction of Steps to Knowledge.

"INTRODUCTION
Steps to Knowledge is the Book of Inner Knowing. Its one-year study
plan, which is divided into 365 “steps,” or lessons, is designed to enable
students to learn to experience and to apply their Self-Knowledge, or
Spiritual Power, in the world. Steps to Knowledge sets out to accomplish
this task in a step-by-step manner as students are introduced to the
essential ideas and practices which make such an undertaking possible.
Practicing every day provides a solid foundation of experience and
develops the thinking, perception and self-motivation necessary for
both worldly success and spiritual advancement.

WHAT IS KNOWLEDGE?

Steps to Knowledge describes Knowledge in the following way:

“Knowledge represents your True Self, your True Mind and
your True Relationships in the universe. It also possesses
your greater calling in the world and a perfect utilization of
your nature, all of your inherent abilities and skills, even your
limitations, all to be given for good in the world.” (STEP 2)

Knowledge is the deeper spiritual mind that the Creator has given to
each person. It is the source of all meaningful action, contribution and
relationships. It is our natural Inner Guidance system. Its reality is
mysterious, but its Presence can be directly experienced. Knowledge is
remarkably wise and effective in guiding each person in finding his or
her right relationships, work and contribution. It is equally effective in
preparing one to recognize the many pitfalls and deceptions that exist
along the way. It is the basis for seeing, knowing, and acting with
certainty and strength. It is the foundation of life."


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My Step for today, again, struck me deeply. I would like to share it with you. It is true for every one of us in the world, and for all who will enter the world in the future...

"Step 307
KNOWLEDGE IS LIVING WITHIN ME NOW.

KNOWLEDGE IS LIVING WITHIN YOU, and you are learning to
live with Knowledge.Thus, all darkness and illusion are
dispelled from your mind as you come to realize what your life has
always been and will always be. As you realize the changelessness of
your true existence, you will realize how it wishes to express itself in
the world of change.Your Knowledge is greater than your mind,
greater than your body and greater than your definitions of yourself. It
is changeless yet ever changing in its expression. Beyond fear, doubt
and destruction it abides within you, and as you learn to abide with it,
all of its qualities will become your own.

THERE IS NOTHING THAT THE WORLD CAN PROVIDE that can in any
way compare to this, for all the world’s gifts are momentary and
transitory. As you honor them, your fear of losing them will increase.
As you hold them to yourself, your anxiety about death and
destruction will be enhanced, and you will re-enter confusion and
frustration. But with Knowledge, you may possess things in the world
without identifying with them.You may receive them and release them
according to the necessity of doing so.Then, the great anxiety of the
world will not affect you, but the power of Knowledge that you carry
will affect the world. In this way, you will affect the world more than it
affects you. In this way, you will be a contributor to the world. In this
way, the world will be blessed.

REJUVENATE YOURSELF IN KNOWLEDGE in your deeper practice
periods in stillness and remind yourself upon the hour of the power of
Knowledge that you carry this day. Let not any doubt or uncertainty
dissuade you, for here doubt and uncertainty are completely unnatural.
You are learning to become natural because what could be more
natural than being yourself? And what could be more yourself than
Knowledge itself?

PRACTICE 307: Two 30-minute practice periods.
Hourly practice."

Blessings, Robert
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I bring you a message from dog... woof
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QUOTE (drcorey @ Nov 6 2011, 07:13 PM) *
I bring you a message from dog... woof


Really? And in what context? Oh and which translation is that from, Beagle or Chihuahua ?
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QUOTE (drcorey @ Nov 6 2011, 09:13 PM) *
I bring you a message from dog... woof


I would be interested in what you have to say, beyond "woof", about the Teachings that have been posted on this thread? I do not intend to debate you, but to understand your position and what was invoked in you from the words presented.

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QUOTE (BR. Joseph @ Nov 6 2011, 08:36 PM) *
Really? And in what context? Oh and which translation is that from, Beagle or Chihuahua ?


it's a message from St Bernard.
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QUOTE (Robert2011 @ Nov 7 2011, 06:42 AM) *
I would be interested in what you have to say, beyond "woof", about the Teachings that have been posted on this thread? I do not intend to debate you, but to understand your position and what was invoked in you from the words presented.

Blessings, Robert


Seconded.

How about posting something... He asked nicely.
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Or perhaps dog should start its own post. he seems to have so much to say.
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QUOTE (BR. Joseph @ Nov 7 2011, 03:52 PM) *
Seconded.

How about posting something... He asked nicely.


thats all my dog said. and my gf says he is devine.
which I do not believe, one night he farted so bad it woke him up and he left the room.
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Dr.Corey has been with us a long time and has always been a jokester. He also provides us with an occasional insight for us to ponder. And even through his jokes he sometimes delivers us a message. Perhaps one only needs to look deeper into his response for the intended message? I get it....God's Peace.....To`na Wanagi
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QUOTE (Robert2011 @ Sep 24 2011, 03:20 PM) *
Hello Brother Michael, thank you for your post. Let me answer your questions. I do not consider myself a "New Messenger". I consider myself a student of this Revelation, a follower of it, and a witness to it and to its Messenger (Marshall Vian Summers). In that role of witness I feel strongly that I need to share the awareness of this Revelation with all who can hear.

Blessings, Robert


The emboldened part in red says it all for me. I follow after no man but the Creator only as IT is revealed to me. And even in Christianity we are warned over and again about false prophets and those who will come to deceive. And for what purpose? And as well, if one believes in the NT it warns us that before the Christ comes the anti (instead of)-christ who will come with this very same message.

Believe what you will. But as for me, I will listen to the Spirit of All which reveals itself to me as I travel this transient world, awaiting the time when my Spirit will be free of this earthly plane....JMO.....God's Peace.....To`na Wanagi
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